Federal judge heckled at Stanford says 'don't feel sorry for me,' says mob

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    A federal judge shouted down by protesters at Stanford Law School ripped the behavior of the student body and administrators, saying they were treating their peers like "dogs**t."

    Judge Kyle Duncan, who was appointed by former President Donald Trump, was invited to speak at Stanford University Thursday by the school's Federalist Society chapter. However, he was heckled by hundreds of students, who made it impossible for him to deliver his speech.

    "If enough of these kids get into the legal profession, the rule of law will descend into barbarism," Duncan told the Washington Free Beacon.

    Video footage widely shared on social media shows that the school's associate dean of diversity, equity and inclusion (DEI), Tirien Steinbach, did nothing to quell the disruption as protesters hurled verbal abuse at the judge, which appeared to violate Stanford's free speech policies.

    STANDFORD DEI DEAN SLAMS INVITED FEDERAL JUDGE TO HIS FACE AT CAMPUS EVENT, ASKS IF FREE SPEECH IS ‘WORTH IT’












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    DEI clearly needs to be eliminated from our education system. We need to stand tall in defense of free speech. No one has a free speech right to silence the free speech of another person.
     
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    The schools Federalist society chapter had every right to invite the Nudge to speak. The judge had a right to speak and be heard. It is fine that the courts notice events like this and deny internships to law school graduates who plan on practicing law in a court where both sides get to be heard.
     
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    Your party can not claim that January 6 was "legitimate political discourse" as they enshrined it in their platform and then get your panties in a twist because a guy got heckled. I really don't support students heckling speakers they don't like, but after January 6, you have absolutely no ground to stand on in terms of free speech. heckling is free speech. I don't like it, I think it was a bad idea, but clearly you have no notion whatsoever of what free speech.
    In fact, you just stated that you think that students should be punished by being denied internships for having the audacity to speak.
    I will reiterate that I am not at all in favour of these tactics. But please, learn once and for all the actual meaning of free speech. You obviously don't understand it
     
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    Really? How can I have a right to free speech and expression if you think that your free speech rights include heckling me and shouting me down so that I can not speak and my listeners can’t hear me?
     
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    Your right to free speech does not mean that other have to listen or not speak at all while you do. Don't like it go somewhere else to speak and take those who want to listen to you with you.
     
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    when someone is invited to speak, those who try to interrupt or silence the speaker should be harshly dealt with-at Yale, attempting to prevent free speech by heckling or disruption could result in expulsion
     
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    he was raising a red herring that had nothing to do with the issue
     
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    True, but that was not the point.
     
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    As it should be on every campus. The university is to learn new things and be exposed to new and different ideas even ones we don’t agree with. They are not snowflake zones where people can hide in pc cocoons for fear of exposure to an idea they don’t like.
     
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    I know. But there are some on the far left who literally believe it their free speech right to go to where I am, shout me down and make it impossible for my speech to be heard by those there specifically to hear my words.
     
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    Wow! Now that is a serious whataboutism that's going to be hard to beat, but I'm going to try.

    Your party has protested/rioted for decades from NYC to LA and just about every major city in between. Your party has taken over government buildings many times and they even laid claim to an entire city block. Your party has protested in DC more times than I can county and they even had to put Trump in a White House bunker for his safety - something you guys on this board laughed at. Your party, during their decades of riots, have caused billions of dollars in damage and tons of deaths. When the party you hate gathers for a protest that did minimal damage and killed no one, your under garments get soiled like Biden's at the Vatican. Your side has done far, far more damage and destruction than anything that happened on 1/6 and your ONLY argument is the tried and true double standard of "but that's different." Depending on the riot, your party literally told cops to give rioters room to riot, Pelosi once said it's patriotic to protest, rioting gave us the summer of love, and rioting was even credited by the left as preventing the spread of the china virus, or has Jim Acosta originally coined it, the Wuhan virus which has since been deemed racist. And just when you think it can't get worse, the VP encouraged more rioting, death and destruction by raising bail money for the minuscule few who got arrested and charged with a crime.

    Similarly, the left turns a blind eye or makes excuses when thousands of people in liberal cities are murdered each year. There are no CNN panel discussions, no speeches from the White House, nothing. But if one cop kills one person who belongs to a favored group, then all hell breaks loose. A life is a life and a death is a death, and the left ignores thousands of deaths while only focusing only on the ones where the identities of the victims and the people who killed them align with their agenda. Again, you're going to say 'but that's different' because cops are supposed to be held to higher standards and expectations. When you say that, what you're really implying is you have lower expectations and standards for the people in liberal cities who kill each other at an alarming rate, and that means you see some humans as being more superior/inferior than others and it all depends on identity.

    Now hit me with your best counter whataboutism argument or just say 'but that's diffferent' and call it a day.
     
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    The campus federalist society did legally pick a place where they could freely assemble and engage in both assembly and expression rights. They weren’t the ones who invaded the space of others with the intent of free speech suppression . They could have addressed whatever issues they have with his beliefs and expressions of them in the q&a after the constitutionally protected speech
     
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    Bravo! :applause:So very well said. Thanks for your awesome contribution to my thread! :banana:
     
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    That is not the issue you raised. You made it a rights issue which it is not. It was a "civility" issue and the hecklers clearly failed, as is their right to do so.
     
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    You have the right to free speech. People do not have the right to not be thought an ******* nor do people have the right to be heard.
     
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    You really don't know the definition of free speech in the US?
    free speech only involves government interference. Outside of that, people are free to speak, and people are free to heckle, shush, and argue against the speaker. You also can be punished by others for your speech, just not by the government. If I call you AHDB, political forum can punish me by kicking me out, and my free speech has not been abridged.
    Learn the basics man!
    Once again, I do not like these tactics, but please ST FU about free speech is you don't know what it is
     
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    'Heckling' is free speech, and 1/6 is the back drop to defend that point? Luls. Heckling can only be viewed as the attempt to suppress free speech, not to support it. But this brings us to the controversial interpretation of the first amendment, the liberal interpretation that citizens can engage in free speech suppression, so long as they are not members of the government. I disagree, I think the constitution and its laws are laws for the country to abide by and the citizens are a part of the country so they are as bound to the first amendment as much as the first amendment is also meant to protect their speech.

    A liberty cannot be given and taken away, or selectively approved. It must be all/or, with no exceptions.
     
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    Heckling others is neither speech nor a right.
     
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    You need to educate yourself a bit more.
     
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    What do you expect just listen to the dean

    "And I understand why people feel like the harm is so great that we might need to reconsider those
    policies. And luckily they're in a school where they can learn the advocacy skills to advocate for those
    changes.[/quote]

    So they are there to be indoctrinated into "advocacy".... in other words shouting down and running off anyone who does not agree with you.
     
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    What in the illogical false equivalency.

    So... free speech is heckling and shutting down free speech?

    Super logical dude.
     
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    There is no right to be heard
     
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    Federal Judge Calls On Stanford To Fire DEI Dean That Participated In Student-Led Revolt
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    'Duncan said he was treated like “dogshit” during his visit and requested that Stanford Law terminate the administrator that disrupted him..'

    Welcome to the extremists within the academic Left, they view you as subhuman.

    'Federal Judge Kyle Duncan has called on Stanford University to fire the Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion Dean who participated in a student-led revolt against his appearance at the law school.'


    “If enough of these kids get into the legal profession, the rule of law will descend into barbarism.

    That's their plan.

    'As Jonathan Turley detailed in a note yesterday, it was a chilling reminder of the anti-free speech movement sweeping across our universities, including our law schools.'

    Edu-thugs are in control, of way too much of education.
     
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    So the judge in turn is trying to exercise authority and limit free speech. Imagine if faculty staff tried to push to have Duncan disbarred?

    Now we understand why this POS was not welcomed or wanted.
     
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