Federal judge poised to set Trump trial date in election interference case

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  1. Izzy

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    It will be the opening salvo in the appeal Lauro/appeal lawyer will file when Trump is found guilty.


    'Trump attorney John Lauro argued that the date was unfair to the former president. "We will certainly abide by your honor's ruling, as we must. We will not be able to provide adequate representation ... the trial date will deny President Trump the opportunity to have effective assistance of counsel,"
     
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    I think you may be doing what I've done numerous times here, mixing up trials?
    This is Trump's J6 trial and he's the only defendant with Judge Chutkan presiding.
    The defendants wanting the "speedy trials" is Fani Willis and Georgia with the 19 indictments/
     
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    thanks i did
     
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    There’s no election involving Biden vs trump, in March.
     
  5. Richard Franks

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    The date of March 4 sounds reasonable and it sounds fair. Trump vows to appeal, Good Luck in doing it. Whether that happens remains to be seen.
     
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    It's Egoboy who gets me back on the right trial track. lol
     
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    Is Trump already planning on being convicted and appealing? Or is he talking about appealing the schedule for trial, which is not appealable?
     
  8. Izzy

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  9. Izzy

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    If he was a true American Patriot he would give up his Secret Service and ask that the Oath Keepers/Proud Boys from other prisons be his guards.
    You know, in the real world the guys who he wouldn't piss on if they were on fire.
    lol
     
  10. Izzy

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    ffs! CNN
    Everyone knows that Trump never heard of the "Scottsboro Boys".


    'Trump cited the ‘Scottsboro Boys’ case when he asked for a 2026 trial. Judge Chutkan rejected any comparison'



    By Devan Cole, CNN
    Updated 5:50 PM EDT, Tue August 29, 2023

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    'Stunningly stupid': Trump compares case to 'Scottsboro Boys'
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    3 hours ago — ... Trump attorney John Lauro argued that his client would be unfairly prejudiced by commencing the federal election interference trial ...


    How Trump's lawyers tried to use 1931 case of black ...
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    2 hours ago — While Lauro delivered a series of impassioned pleas and accused the government of selective prosecution and seeking a 'show trial,' prosecutor ...

    'The decision to reference the Supreme Court case – which required that indigent defendants receive competent counsel – in their brief also faced stinging criticism from outside the courtroom.

    “It was stunningly stupid. Because one, the comparison is ridiculous. But second, if you want to alienate a judge in the case, this was exactly what to do. A female judge, a Black judge, and to talk about that case and compare it to Trump’s case was absurd,” retired California Superior Court Judge LaDoris Hazzard Cordell told CNN’s Kaitlan Collins on CNN’s “The Source” Monday night.

    “And Judge Chutkan really took them up on it and said this case is entirely different. I think she was absolutely offended,” Cordell added.

    No comparison between Scottsboro Boys and Trump, judge says

    Trump’s attorneys didn’t discuss the Supreme Court case during Monday’s hearing, but used the case to begin their August 17 brief to Chutkan.'

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    https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/29/politics/trump-trial-date-scottsboro-boys-rape-cases/index.html
     
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    I remember MAGA wigs on fire when a few tiny sections of the original GA GJ report was released back in February. Now that we have indictments, it's probably going to be released in full on 9/8....

    SNIP
    According to an order issued Monday by Fulton County Superior Court Judge Robert McBurney, the full grand jury report will be added to the court’s docket if no objections are filed by 5 p.m. on Sept. 6.

    The full special grand jury report has been of intense media interest for months. Earlier this year, Atlanta News First joined media organizations from Georgia and across the country to request the final report’s public release.
    ENDSNIP

    https://www.atlantanewsfirst.com/20...release-date-trump-special-grand-jury-report/

    Can't imagine there will be much new in there, but might be an interesting read nonetheless...

    Here's the current released version... was a yawnfest...

    https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/23683579-ga-special-purpose-grand-jury-report
     
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    Trump thinks the Scottsboro Boys are the team that fertilizes the grounds at MAL.....
     
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    I'll check it out.

    Let's put a face on that SGJ report.. chuckle.

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    No, that's not how it works. Even Trump's insane request, was within some degree of plausability(1 1/2 years from now really.). Why not deal with case fact in the case, instead of trying to use hyperbole to miserably score a point.

    A judge should ideally reach the middle ground, the most that they can, so that the facts of the case present themselves. Judges are not supposed to be important, they are not supposed to be a factor and they shouldn't act like one. That judges(not just this particular one) do, and that they're even quoted in newsletters and such is the show of the decay of the justice system.

    Trump's request was basically around 16 months, the Justice Department asked for 5 months. You split the baby and give them 8 months.

    This isn't hard.
     
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    Nah, they're at the "Trump International Scotland".
    :roflol:
     
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    There was no "baby" to split.
    "in April 2026."


    Trump seeks trial on election interference charges in 2026
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    Aug 17, 2023 — His lawyers' bold proposal for a 2.5-year delay stands in stark contrast to prosecutors' call for a trial to begin in January 2024.
     
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    I HATE to break it to you, but it's still 2023....

    She gave 7 months... that's PLENTY of time to come up with no valid defense for any of the charges....
     
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    She only gave 7 months if we loosely count the end of this month. In reality, 7 months is barely a 2 month extension from the January date.

    That's not splitting the middle, that's heavily favoring the prosecution. So much so, the prosecution doesn't even care about the two months.

    That's insulting. It should be a date that both the prosecution and the defense can agree to. And I submit May-through-July 2024 would be an ideal starting point, for both sides.

    It gives Trump 9 months, 9 real, full, actual months. And the prosecution for its part, can take more time to gather evidence.
     
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    Wasn't McFadden the judge who sentenced J6 rioters a lot less time then what prosecutors asked for?


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    Holy ****! A trump-appointed judge just held a 1/6 rioter IN CONTEMPT and jailed him for five months for his behavior during trial. That’s five months JUST for his conduct during trial!
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    That's a tough question. I know the facts.
     
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    1. March 4th IS a 2 month extension from the requested January 2nd, almost no matter what calendar system you use
    2. The defense completely punted on participating in the date selection process in the hearing, so nobody really cares what they can agree to.
    3. You keep forgetting there is already a federal trial scheduled for late May....
    4. 7 months ARE real full actual months. Including several with 31 days!!!
    5. The prosecution doesn't need more time to "gather evidence". They've indicted. By law and standards, they have enough evidence to sustain those indictments.

    This was a perfectly logical and reasonable legal decision, given the circumstances. I'd prepare to deal with it. And it won't be "appealed" by the defendant, primarily because it can't be.
     
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    Ugh.. .let's not...
     
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    To say that the defense 'completely punted' is simply bias'd. They might not have had a date on the spot, but given time to file a briefing, they might have been able to create an alternative date. It goes without saying, the judge did not give such time to file a counter briefing. The judge's affirmative decision is not the same thing as the defense completely punting.

    And that Federal Trial scheduled in May? There can be a workaround that easily. It's not like all 30 days of May are locked up by that one trial. They could approximate, and move the dates around accordingly as conflicts potentially come up.

    And if the prosecution is sitting pretty with the idea 'we indicted them, therefore we have enough evidence to sustain', then Jack Smith team is lazy and that's something for Trump's team to take advantage of.
     
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    The defense "punted" when they first suggested 2026. That was not a "good faith" offer, it was ridiculous. It showed that they aren't serious about setting a trial date.

    A perfect case of "F around and find out". Well they F'ed around and now they are finding out.
     
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    Trump Posts Attack On Judge Chutkan After 3 AM Rage Bender At ‘Corrupt System of INJUSTICE’
    By Tommy ChristopherSep 1st, 2023, 8:11 am
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    Ex-President Donald Trump posted an attack on Federal District Judge Tanya Chutkan hours past midnight, and on the heels of a rant about the “corrupt system of INJUSTICE” that he now faces.

    On Thursday, Trump entered a plea of “Not Guilty” in the election crimes case that’s set for trial in Fulton County, Georgia — and which will be televised live, a Judge ruled also on Thursday.

    Hours and hours later, Trump was apparently still awake ranting on Truth Social about the cases against him. Amid a blizzard of re-posts featuring commentary by Fox News host Mark Levin, Trump weighed in at just after 3 a.m. to blast the trials and share his interview with Levin, writing:


    I am being “railroaded” by a highly partisan and corrupt system of INJUSTICE, headed up by an opponent who is losing in the polls and, simultaneously with all of this, destroying our once Great Country! This Mark Levin interview is a MUST WATCH!

    Minutes later, Trump added:

    Keep Indicting your Political Opponent, it makes no difference for what, or why. Keep him off the “campaign trail” and in the courthouse instead. Don’t think of his Rights, the Constitution, or Liberty. Sit back and WATCH AMERICA CRUMBLE!

    Several more minutes deeper into the night, Trump wrote:

    But their is no system of justice. Our Court System is rigged against me!

    Then, Trump re-posted a message from Levin that attacked Judge Chutkan as “Another judge from a Marxist family.”

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