Fire can't melt, bend, and warp steel?

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  1. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The Windsor Tower fire in Madrid was not caused by terrorism.

    There was no burning jet fuel.

    Just regular office stuff and drywall.

    The upper outside layer of the tower was all steel, with no concrete.

    This is what fire did to those steel sections:

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    yes folks, an ordinary fire can indeed bend, warp and even melt steel.

    and it can cause a large steel structure to collapse.
     
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    The combatants during the American Civil War were aware of the magical properties of a simple camp fire to bend steel ala Superman. Some of you may have heard of Sherman's neckties
     
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    Regular old fire has bent & warped steel before, and it will again.

    and yes, it will again cause a building to collapse.
     
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    And there is this - often avoided by truthers

    [video]http://on.aol.com/video/the-crystal-palace-fire-in-upper-norwood-london-119996293[/video]
     
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    Are you disputing any of the information supplied. If not then you need to withdraw your complaint that it is propaganda
     
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    I remember in the earlier years the Truthers throwing that argument around a lot. I assumed they had abandoned that talking point though due to it being empirically false.
     
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    HELL YEH!

    IT DID NOT COLLAPSE DOWN TO THE GROUND!!!!!!!!!!!!

    IT DEFIED FIZIX!

    WTC is proof that it should have collapsed straight into its own footprint and look the damn thing is still standing even after losing so many supporting columns.
     
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    So you dont see any warping in the photo of the structure you supplied, or that the upper 12 floors above the fire have collapsed. Are you arguing the Crystal Palace did not collapse. Are you arguing Sherman's neckties are not real.
     
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    yeh what do twoofers know eh?

    truthers like to talk about hard evidence not tea parlor fizix

    THERMITE CUTTERS THAT DISINTEGRATE AND LEAVE BEHIND MOLTEN IRON


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    yeh in many places liquid steel

    thats how thermetic demolition works

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    see 1984 patented thermite cutters and look at all that evaporated and over heated steel.

    my my how OSHuggers like to avoid the evidence


    NIST Chief criminal Gross showing off the steel they didnt think check for explosives or accelerants.
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    isnt that amazing?

    they should ban all heat from hirises!
     
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    [/QUOTE]

    What evidence is there to avoid. Thermite does not cut sideways. Everybody knows that except presumably you
     
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    What evidence is there to avoid. Thermite does not cut sideways. Everybody knows that except presumably you[/QUOTE]

    are you kidding?????? trying to look really foolish?

    I just posted the patent and the very next post you say it cant cut sideways???? you ok? LOL


    hell people just farting around with it at home with cheapo ginso homemade crap thermite even do it.



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    and what you think the patented version cant do it? LOLOLOLOLOL
     
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    What you posted is a gif that frankly is unreadable. But feel free to link me to a commercial supplier of the machine patented
     
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    the patent number is readable thats all you need LOL
     
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    In other words you dont even know what the device actually is, or if anyone ever made it
     
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    the patent shows how to make it.
     
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    It doesn't say if anyone made it - Why cant you show us any further information. Clearly you grabbed the gif from somewhere, you have no idea what it is, or what it even says. You just assume it proves whatever you want it

    So yeah get back to me when you find a way to get a thermite charge to burn horizontally.
     
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    so again I post a clip demonstrating how thermite burns through steel horizontally by some kid in their back yard and you insist on making a complete fool out of yourself by claiming it didnt happen. (*)(*)(*)(*)ing DUH!

    Of course someone built it, it has a patent.

    seems your posts are getting pretty strung out here advancing toward loonyville at a high rate of speed
     
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    No you have supplied a heavily edited gif that really displays nothing

    Then you should have no trouble tracking the information I've asked for

    Ah yes truther 101 - lash out with an insult when cornered
     
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    nope your arguments are so (*)(*)(*)(*)ing weak you cant get them to stand with duct tape.

    I have no reason to "track" anything. I gave you the patent number do your own (*)(*)(*)(*)ing homework!

    Next you will want me to read it and explain it and teach you wtf it means.
     
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    I take it your mad scramble around Google was a fail. Oh well
     
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    and this right here:


    Fire can't melt, bend, and warp steel?



    thats just another OSHugger strawman, no truther that I have ever seen would say anything that damn dumb. OSHuggers on the other hand, well seeing is believing.
     
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    And the insult continue to flow. I am surprised you dont take the chance at a slam dunk and actually how dumb the statement is
     
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    The OP totally debunks the very silly Twoofer idea that an office fire can't warp, bend, and even melt steel.
     
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    the part that was all steel, did collapse.
     
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    Actually, wrong again. A patent (let alone a patent number) is not a working product. You may not know this, but patents are regularly issued for ides that don't work.

    There was no molten or melted steel found anywhere in the WTC debris.

    The images you provide are not of melted steel. They are of corroded steel... corrosion that took place within the rubble piles in the months following the WTC collapse as the result of long term immersion in SO[SUB]2[/SUB].

    http://www.911myths.com/Sulfur.pdf
     

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