Fire can't melt, bend, and warp steel?

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  1. leftysergeant

    leftysergeant New Member

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    No. Some dumb son of a (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) thinks paint chips are thermite.

    Nobody with a brain claimed it or thinks we claim it. Sulphuric acid did it.

    Show me some steel that looks like it was acted on by HE. I see no sign in any of this scrap pile of such.

    Totally consistent with the sorts of conditions that existed in the depths of the pile.

    It was a enormous hydrogen generator for months without stop until they dug up and extinguished most of the fires.
     
  2. leftysergeant

    leftysergeant New Member

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    Stop that. It is meaningless. That is the time it took for the first element from the top of the towers to hit the ground. If it were shorter, then Newton would be ivalidated for all time. Fifteen seconds is far short of the duration of the process.
     
  3. leftysergeant

    leftysergeant New Member

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    You are not entitled to invent your own reality. Nothing in that statement is true.

    Well my GAWD. For the first time today, I see that you got one right. Yes, the steel was subjected to something involving sulphuric acid. All of it was a by-product of the combustion of sulphurous materials and battery acid. DUH!
     
  4. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    More strawman (*)(*)(*)(*) from someone who doesnt even understand the simple concepts of cohesion and adhesion. that was neither what I said nor my intended point.

    I never said suphuric acid, you said it you prove it.

    the evidence again proves debunker talk is nothing more than OSHugger talk.

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    so now these huggers want to claim that the whole wtc complex was one huge batter acid storage depot since these effects are seen in all 3 buildings.
     
  5. Gamolon

    Gamolon Well-Known Member

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    Right! Eutectic reaction. No thermite needed.
     
  6. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    well good then you finally agree it was melted
     
  7. Gamolon

    Gamolon Well-Known Member

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    No thermite needed.

    Thanks for playing.
     
  8. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    So how did they get that much sulphuric acid in to 3 towers and then coat all that steel without anyone noticing

    you are right only NIST is entitled to invent their own reality
     
  9. Gamolon

    Gamolon Well-Known Member

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    Was there anything in the drywall/gypsum planking of the towers that could have contributed to the eutectic reactions on the steel?

    Hmmmmm....
     
  10. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    stuff that melts steel
     
  11. Gamolon

    Gamolon Well-Known Member

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    Stuff? Like what Koko? Go look it up. No thermite/thermitic material needed.
     
  12. Kokomojojo

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    prove what naturally occurring process can make steel look like that or you have nothing.

    I await identical samples from nature
     
  13. Gamolon

    Gamolon Well-Known Member

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    I asked you first. So show me your proof where thermitic material has been shown to produce iron oxide and iron sulfide on the surface of steel and that it caused corrosion through intergranular channels into the body of the metal?

    Are you going to keep going around in circles or admit that you are just guessing and have no proof?
     
  14. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    no I admit that I have found no samples of anything remotely close to the wtc samples that occurred naturally in nature.

    that i why you need to post pics of your samples so we can see that this can take place in nature, you may as well face it that you have nothing. again

    but I am glad you finally agreed it melted
     
  15. Gamolon

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    WRONG yet again.

    You have no previous experiments or results of a thermitic material producing iron oxide and iron sulfide on the surface of steel and that it caused corrosion through intergranular channels into the body of the metal?

    So what are you basing your claim that the pictures you are posting are proof of thermtic materials being used?

    Round and round again.

    That's like me posting a picture of a gold bar and saying it is the result of me turning lead in gold. When asked for proof, I post the picture again and again of the gold bar and say, "There it is! The gold bar I turned from lead into gold."

    Pathetic.
     
  16. LoneStrSt8

    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    /Did the fact that the WTC complex was also near a large body of salt water escape koko?

    Anyone who's lives near a body of salt water can tell you what that does to steel and iron...
     
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    Your just asking to much for Koko's mind to bear, he can't be Mr. know it all in everything. I guess geography is his weakness.
     
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    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    And given the fact heat speeds up oxidation along with the sulphur in the wallboard...
     
  19. djlunacee

    djlunacee New Member

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    Now you've done it....I guess chemistry isn't his strong suit either, but of course we all knew that.
     
  20. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    again if you want to advance your argument you need to show comparable samples in nature that look like the wtc steel.

    Im sure there is a dablunder website that has all those samples that you can post.

    untill that happens you dont have a legitimate argument
     
  21. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    but we need real life samples that occurred in nature to validate your claims.

    That shouldnt be too much of a problem for you to produce.
     
  22. Hannibal

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    Validate YOUR claims first, Trougher.
     
  23. Brother Jonathan

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    And they didn't collapse.
     
  24. Gamolon

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    I thought you said office fires weren't hot enough to make steel weaken and collapse yet I see the steel portion of the Madrid tower collapsed.

    What gives?
     
  25. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    the all-steel section did collapse.
     

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