For those that have a wrong idea about Israel

For those that have a wrong idea about Israel... here it is in full bloom for all to watch and ponder what we did in 65 years... I hope you enjoy this clip.HB


http://www.youtube.com/embed/AoizSL-TEJQ?efeature=player_embedded

 

Six minutes of Success and pride.
You deserve every compliment possible.
Do not relate to cynicals and Arab lovers which will send abusive messages.
They can not show us a movie like this !!

That shows that Israel is the bright Lighthouse in the dark arab world.
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Belongs in the hasbara forum. Over-ripe propagandist twaddle.

 

Guess what, everything in the video isl true. Unlike the non-stop Palliwood/Islamofascist PR you and your ilk are spewing here.

 

for attention of on duty moderator please

 

Scary, is it not? To have such a prosperous, beautiful flower of democracy in the backyard of backwards Egypt must be heartbreaking?

 

Sort of Nuremburg Rally for the Childkillers being proposed, is it (H Bendor is on my Ignore list, apparently)? What is the point of any but the potential quislings following the output of the Nazi Disinformation Office?

 

More Hasbara tripe? No surprise given the poster's history here.

 

Hahahahahahaha....How much do you earn as a comedian?

 

Do not relate to cynicals and Arab lovers which will send abusive messages.
They can not show us a movie like this !!

 

A flower grown out of the bodies of tortured people and murdered children has a somewhat limited appeal, I think. Those whose ancestors supported Hitler rather like that sort of thing, of course. Aren't racist Americans weird!

 

...And sixty six years of war crimes and oppression.

 

And yet the very first reply in this thread featured its first abusive message. YOURS.

 

Former Israeli Soldiers "Flipping Out" in India



By Claus Mueller

A scene from Flipping OutFLIPPING OUT is the third political documentary produced by the noted Israeli film maker Yoav Shamir after his acclaimed CHECKPOINT and 5 DAYS. Though the film lacks the hard edge and fast pacing of his previous work, FLIPPING OUT is more persuasive and accessible to a larger audience.

After being discharged with a bonus of 15,000 shekels (about $4,300) after three years of compulsory military service, an estimated 20,000 former Israeli soldiers travel to India. About 90 percent take drugs and 2000 of the Israeli ex-soldiers living in India ‘flip out’ each year. This documentary’s introductory scenes of soldiers breaking into Palestinian homes land and non-directive interviews with these soldiers and professionals trying to help them suggest that the military service has damaged them resulting in post-traumatic stress disorders. Yet as distinct from the fate of U.S. soldiers coming back form Afghanistan and Iraqi with similar mental problems and cannot get adequate help from official agencies. Israeli public and private organizations take responsibility for the problems the army service created.

In India the ex-soldiers live in small communal settings and hotels segregated from the Indian population, in locations, they identify as Kasol sin or crime city. The winter months are spend in Himalayan mountain areas and for the summer months the Israelis migrate to Goa to continue enjoying a lifestyle of large parties, use of virtually all drugs, including to marihuana, cocaine, LSD, ecstasy and other hard drugs. Relations between Indians and Israelis are pragmatic but not friendly. As one Israeli points out, the Indians are like Arabs. Conversely Indians consider the Israelis to be noisy, drug addicted and out of control. Yet with an average income of $500 per year they depend on the funds provided by the Israeli expatriates.



From the perspective of one former soldiers who has been living in India for more than six years and served as a commander of an Israeli elite unit there is a fine line between sanity and madness, a borderline condition that can be discerned in the portraits of this documentary. There is a frenzied look of people, incoherent statements suspending the reality context and rapid motion activities. Yet at the same time others seem to be in a state of drug induced bliss, totally cooled out, and regressed to childlike states The former commander suggests that, military service destroyed the identity and meaning of life, and that staying on drugs rehabilitates former soldiers by getting ‘the crap’ out of their system. In the army he faced disgraceful things and his hand caused death and destruction. Yoav Shamir presents none of the female ex-soldiers who live in Israeli communities in India and also take drugs and seems to imply that females adapt better to the stress of military service.

The documentary shows the response of Israeli agencies to the growing problem of settlements in India with ex-soldiers involved in drug use. The Israeli government has funded through its anti-drug authority Warm House drop in centers, a sort of community place run by a former Israeli officer which welcomes all Israelis living there. An Israeli fundamentalist group has established Chabad Houses trying to recuperate drug using and addicted ex soldiers while also running a search and rescue mission for Israelis freaking out on drugs. This work is carried out by former army officer, Hilik Magnus whose task is to bring back to Israel those soldiers who have suffered from psychotic and other violent breakdowns. He suggests that many of the ex soldiers living there have no center, are dislocated, and alienated and that drugs provide only a temporary respite.

One telling encounter in FLIPPING OUT is the meeting between the Israeli Deputy Prime Minister Eli Ishay and former soldiers. One female soldier tells him that she is on her second trip to India and that “...here one can feel normal again .no bombings, no corruption, none of that pressure [faced] back in Israel…. one comes here and feels normal again”. Another soldier hopes not to return Israel soon; he does not belong to that country any more and considers having an Israeli passport to be a problem since he feels more at home in India.

Isahy considers these as sad stories but emphasizes that Israeli has to fund efforts such as the Warm House, since “...these former soldiers are our children, our boys and girls... thousands come here and come home mentally devastated” thus placing the onus on the experience in India rather than on the military service.

On the plane going back to Israel the deputy prime minister is in the company of Magus and one flipped out former soldier who belies that he can save humanity since he is a friend to the US president. While the plan disappears on the Horizon, images of a gigantic techno beach party with several hundred ex-soldiers high on drugs provide the coda to this disturbing yet superb documentary.

DVDs of FLIPPING OUT are not yet available. I suggest that readers get in touch with the production company cinephil by contacting Ori Bader email: ori@cinephil.co.il. This documentary may be shown at the next New York Jewish Film Festival.

 

66 years of criminal denial and offensive acts against an accepted state will cause 66 years of conflict.

 

Why are there so many Israeli ex-soldiers in India?

It is a rite of passage for many young Israelis to visit India after finishing their compulsory military service.

The shekel goes a long way, the locals are friendly, drinks cheap and hashish and ecstasy circulated freely.

Meanwhile, beach shacks have been known not to serve Indians. Whole parts of Goa are being bought up surreptitiously by Russians and Israelis. The Indian government is concerned. Chief Minister of Goa, Manohar Parrikar, was emphatic about not tolerating Russian and Israeli enclaves in his state and accused them of concealing drug dens. An Indian MP Shantaram Naik, accused the Israelis of “occupying Goa” and indulging in shady business activities.

An exasperated branch of the Catholic Church in Goa issued a statement accusing young ex-Israeli soldiers in Goa of being “dehumanised” after their compulsory stint in the army.

Authored by 11 seminarians and totalling some 96 pages, the investigative Catholic Church publication titled Claiming the Right to Say No: A Study of Israeli Tourist Behavior and Patterns in Goa accused the ex-soldiers of “unbecoming” behaviour incompatible with local beliefs and customs including drug trafficking, prostitution, all-night rave parties and crime sprees. In my own conversations with dodgy beach shack owners, the best way to get a chillum filled with weed was to follow the Hebrew signs.

 

Exactly that's my point!

 

Good, we agree,

What's else on the news ?

 

65yrs years of being vampires and liars.

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Throw them all out, wherever they are.

They contaminate everything.

 

The news is that you agree with Israel's criminal denial and offensive acts! I never saw that coming!

 

Unfortunately there is no beauty in not abiding by accepted Western values concerning human rights, civil rights and equality.

Nothing there to be proud of.

 

Israel is a beautiful oasis of civility, surrounded by an ocean of barbarism. Dispute that, Alexa

 

Then why can't it follow basic humanitarian law sets to which it is a party?

 

If you want me to be blunt, Israel is a racist colonial state acting like European colonials of the 19th early 20th Century. It has nothing when it has no values and have a look at the article I gave and you will find it has no values. It is simply a colonial state who is still working to replace the original inhabitants through brute force.

There is nothing to be proud of there, Now stay on topic.

 

There's an old Russian proverb, If you live among wolves you have to howl like a wolf. And it is perfectly applicable to the Israel situation - If Israel wants to survive among wolfs, it simply cannot be a "kinder, gentler nation" - it has to do what it has to do to survive. Simple, eh?

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See my post # 26, please.