For those who think the election doubters have no grounds-

Exactly. So far, of prosecuted cases for voter fraud in 2020, the majority are those people trying to cheat for Trump.

 

I havent commented upon that one way or the other, but how exactly are you concluding that the means to count eligible voters is to count registered voters? Are you trying to say that in order to be eligible they need to be registered?

Otherwise, your solution does not make any sense. It would be like saying that the way to count the number of speeders is to look at the number of speeding tickets.

If you are saying that in order to be eligible one needs to be registered, that is clearly not the definition being used in the article from the OP. I would surmise that eligible means a US citizen who is a resident in that district that is of proper voting age, thus would be eligible to register if they choose to do so. I would think that census data would likely be used to provide a reasonably accurate estimate, but I dont pretend to be an expert on such an estimation. One thing I do know however, is that using the number of people registered would not be the proper method if accuracy was your goal.

Additionally, what error are you suggesting has been revealed? I wasnt aware that anything here has been proven one way or the other, rather it is just an assertion at this point. If you are going to accuse one side of jumping to conclusions, unless soomething was revealed in this thread which "Judicial Watch announced today that a September 2020 study revealed that 353 U.S. counties had 1.8 million more registered voters than eligible voting-age citizens. In other words, the registration rates of those counties exceeded 100% of eligible voters." have not read, it seems to me that so are you when concluding it is an error.

 

Add mail in ballots that aren't being checked, and suddenly, mail in ballots for everyone can tip an election to favor say Joe Biden. Look at the states again. Except for AK, all democratic states. And given the flood of CA refugees heading to AK, it starts to make sense....

 

Welcome to the distract by ad hom to keep folks from seeing that mail in ballots have an effect that can shape the outcomes of actual elections.

There are examples in MI in the city of Detroit, for example, where more than 100% of voters cast ballots. I guess that's funny until you realize that it only took a very few instances for the last election to be handed to Bribed Joe Biden.

 

I challenge you right now to present that evidence.

You can make all the claims you want but without evidence it's a bunch of bunk.

 

Grand Island Township in MI reported 96.77%. Of which over 96% of those votes were for Biden. Compared to every previous election for this township, that represents about a 90% over performance for any other election. Mind you, none of those folks actually went to a polling place. In fact, almost none of them actually did. And yet, their ballots were counted.

If we look at a great number of precincts in MI, there are similar accounts. And mostly, all of these over performing precincts happened in low income minority precincts, and there is no explanation for how these ballots were cast.

Several FOIA requests have been made, and we are starting to see a steady stream of what looks like open fraud from the 2020 election.

And just saying, you make specious unsupported claims all day long on this forum. Are you so sure you want this to be the new standard for your commentary here? Are you sure that you'll be able to support your claims? I suspect you're never feel like this will apply to you, just those you wish to bully instead...

 

Start with believing Joe was competent and honest- and you weren't conned.

 

Again,

You are making CLAIMS

I could just as easily type, in Florida only 12 people were registered by 146,000 voted for Trump.

I will back up any claim I make....all you have to do is ask.

 

No, I'm stating facts. And, as noted, these facts were given up for you. You asked for evidence, and I produced it. And now, all you have is sputtering. Typical.

 

No, you have typed something on a screen. I have no way of knowing if what you are typing is in any way accurate. You may be accurately repeating information you were presented but your source is faulty or may be the source is good but your translation is faulty.

Maybe (not what I'm claiming) you just made the numbers up.

A post by an anonymous person on an internet forum does not, in any way, constitute evidence.

 

You're on the internet, and you just told me you can't know anything.... That says all that you ever need to say again...

 

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100% of registrants never vote. But that doesn't negate the corruption. Isn't it fairly trivial to count the number of registrants and the number of eligible citizens? Why is it bull? I'm surprised there are only a few hundred counties. I would view election fraud as more serious than that.

 

There were over 364,000 ineligible voter registrations on the rolls during the
2020 Election and likely 67,284 votes were cast from voters with invalid
residency.

https://assets.open.ink/c8202bb0-9a70-4634-a536-a4fde9f8ae79.pdf

 

I never said Biden was competent or honest (I've contempt for most career politicians in general) but that isn't the topic of the thread anyway.

The question remains; exactly what do you believe was wrong with the 2020 Presidential election and what do the long running issues with voter registration in the US have to do with it?

 

What was wrong?
Most importantly, you have to believe in magic to accept it was legitimate. Aside from anything in the way or legally admisssible proof, Joe being elected honestly has the same probability as a formation of pigs flying over your house. Now that is opinion- but not just speculative.

We have an entrenched politician with a long history of accomplishing nothing. A record of fabricating his own life history and deeds, making it up as he goes along. Claimed he was in the top half of his law class,
but in fact was 76th of 85. Long list of things like this. He has coveted the presidency for decades, tried twice before and couldn't get serious support or traction.

He spent a lot of time at home instead of campaigning; he failed to reach out to the people. When he did speak, he had a hard time drawing a crowd of a few hundred.
His competitor was on the road like a machine, speaking at rally after rally, and drawing crowds that filled stadiums all over the country, tens of thousands each time.
The campaign performance gap was huge, and no candidate in history has been successful or even close with a dishrag campaign like Joes.

Then there is the mysterious and sudden surges of last-minute votes coming in for Biden- not everywhere, but in the swing states that would make the difference.
Follow that with the resistance to allow monitoring of vote counting in many such areas.
The same people say they used loose voting methodology to help people- which coincidentally are the most vulnerable to fraud.
Then of course, the fact that the democrats have been running a vendetta against Trump since he came down the elevator in 2016, and have a record of plots that reek of unlimited immorality.

Things like this- too many of them. Honorable people will lay the cards on the table open to any inspection. Instead, people demanding transparency got stonewalled by people who made an issue that anyone might question the integrity. Stonewalling and denial.... you know they have things to hide. No other possibility.

A savvy person might watch a magician do something that seems impossible, and never be able to figure out how it was done. However, that person absolutely knows that it was an illusion, a deception- and not magic. While you might need hard evidence to convict of a crime (also assuming you have an honest court not run by those who hate you) you don't need that to recognize deception.

And there's the question of American ignorance or stupidity. Joe's performance is substantially worse that what I had expected, which was very poor anyway. I think that anyone could see in the beginning was visible enough to turn the majority of voters off to Joe. Most Americans aren't so stupid or without moral values that they would vote to sink their own ship, including democrats.

I vote for who I feel will best serve the nation. I have voted for several democratic presidents, and I've never been a democrat; I've always been conservative.

All these things stack up- and produce a distinct smell of fraud. It's like skunk odor; you don't have to see the animal to know what you smell. If someone tells you that isn't proof- you know they are probably the ones that own the skunk.

People are losing wisdom and values under the kind of leadership that is in the white house and has been encroaching in all areas of politics in recent years. They are promoting gullibility, dependence and the things that keep people weak. The only reason to do that is to control them- and that usually comes from insecure people that feat strength in anyone else. That is a terrible characteristic for any person in a position of power.

All you have to do is look at the news each morning and see that the kind of things that situation would bring down on us- are happening.
The fact these things are happening, is also proof that what I'm describing is real. I think to believe the election was legit is on the same level as believing in the flying pigs. Just too far out for a rational man.

The things happening in the nation today should tell anyone that government is substantially corrupt, and the corruption is growing.
Joe's performance says he puts America last. I say it comes first, for every politician and every citizen. For a politician to do the opposite is betrayal of the people and the nation.

If you can't see betrayal, you still have to realize we have gross imcompetence widespread- and that only reason that persists is terrible management.
You can deny, you can lie to yourself, but the facts are there. WHY would anyone chose to perpetuate that condition?

 

The number of registered voters can easily exceed the number of votes, but not the number of voters if the registrations and elections are done properly.

 

I'm not frightened to discuss it Yardmeat, but I know from life experiences that there are basically 2 types of humans: curious individuals and the opposite. The curious individuals inform themselves, they seek the truth. Incurious individuals do not. They think as they are told to think by authority figures. They are credulous individuals, the opposite of curious minds and critical thinkers.

Informed and curious minds know the preponderance of the evidence and facts show the election of 2020 to be highly irregular to say the least. Blatant violations of the rule of large numbers Law of large numbers - Wikipedia. Dozens if not hundreds of affidavits nationwide regarding illegal behavior in the handling of electoral records.

All these things might confuse you, but they don't confuse me. I am a curious individual. I've learned years ago that closed minds are not conducive to rational public dialogue.

 

If you can provide evidence, then you are at least being honest. You have provided no evidence. Nor will you. If you were a curious individual, you'd be able to discuss evidence. This might confuse you, but it doesn't confuse me. I learned years ago that conspiratorial minds are not conducive to rational public dialogue.

 

Buddy. Pal. The number of registered voters can AND ALWAYS DO exceed the number of votes. Name one election in the US where there were fewer registered voters than votes. What you can't comprehend is that, if you could prove this, THAT would be ACTUAL evidence of fraud.

I'll try to type slower.

More registered voters than vote = normal, happens every time, and anyone with two brain cells to rub together can easily see why

More votes than registered voters (which is what you are demanding) = ABSOULTE PROOF OF FRAUD

 

I give you a hundred thumbs up, the only difference of opinions might be that the agenda is due to incompetence (and certainly they have the frontman for that) but I believe the real power is 100% accomplishing their goals,, the demise of the American Constitution

 

Many humans are unwilling or unable to view and study facts and evidence that contradict their worldview. It's a complete waste of time and effort to attempt to educate a closed mind. It cannot be done.

You can lead a man to knowledge, but you cannot make him think.

 

Many humans are unwilling or unable to provide facts or evidence. It's a complete waste of time to ask them for evidence. They have none. It cannot be done. You can lead a man to critical thinking, but you cannot make him think. And conspiracy theorists who claim that Trump won the election are incapable of critical thought. Or providing evidence. As you have demonstrated again. And will do again.

 

Luckily trump failed in his attempt to destroy the Constitution. Hopefully he will not succeed in the future.

 

Where Trump failed, Congress succeeded. If you dare, read up on the Unpatriot Act 20+ years ago.

 

The Patriot Act has nothing to do with this topic. But, yes, we agree that Trump failed to overthrow democracy and Congress succeeded in stopping him from doing so. Aaaaaaand you still have provided no evidence of your claims and never will.