Forget NFL, it's college football time!!!!!!!!

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  1. sec

    sec Well-Known Member

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    But, on the flip-side, a Louisville and Oregon won't get as beat up vs playing an SEC schedule. So, you get a healthier team for the championship due to their schedules. That is why each year, true college football fans know the real championship is played in the Georgia Dome in December
     
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    The scenario for Louisville to reach the National Championship Game is so insane, its ridiculous. they need like every other team in the top 10 to lose at least once and the top 5 to lose twice, each. I have no arguement with you. I believe a 2 loss Georgia team, or South Carolina would mop the field with Louisville. Living here in NC I get a chance to go to some SC games maybe 2 a year if I am lucky. Until you see the size of these guys and how they can move you don't realize how far behind the rest of the college world is. I love how the other poster wants to keep harping on Louisville beating Florida last year. Good for them, I gave them props, last year. What he doesn't understand was how offensively inept they were last year and they played an absolutely brutal schedule with A&M, LSU, Georgia, South Carolina, and FSU. I shouldn't put much stock into what he says considering he thinks a 10 point win is a "stomping"...lol.

    Simple fact remains I would rather have Manziel, Boyd, Winston, McCarron, Murray, Mettenberger, any day of the week over Teddy Bridgewater. Its an opinion.
     
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    It most certainly was a mauling if you watched the game. UF was down 33-10 with a few minutes left in the 4th quarter. A kick off return and a hurry up TD pass brought the score closer, but that game was over in the 3rd quarter and didnt leave a doubt in anyone's mind who the better team was. I understand you think this team or that team would beat Louisville, but your the same guy who's under the impression Michigan is going to beat OSU. Michigan, who barley survived Akron at home. So, forgive me if I believe your predictions to be nonsense.

    Maybe one day little league coaches will get to vote for the Heisman, but as of right now Bridgewater is considered a top canidate for the award.
     
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    Sigh,

    http://espn.go.com/college-football/heisman13/

    These experts have Bridgewater fourth despite the astronomical numbers, behind Mariota, Manziel, and Boyd. Seems the old ball coach was right and that schedules do matter to the experts, why else would he be getting stomped by the other 3 ahead of him? But what would a football coach know about football?

    How long is a college football game? Is it 60 minutes or 45? Last I checked it was 60. So no, the game wasn't over in the third quarter, there was still time to play. Get over it, 10 points isn't a stomping. Didn't BYU come from 20 down in the last 2:16 in a bowl game back in the day? Bet SMU wishes games were only 45 minutes. Yes, I have gone on record and picked Michigan to beat OSU this year. Refresh my memory, did Akron win? Or did they almost win? Last I checked there are 3 columns, Wins, Loses, Ties. I don't recall an almost wins column in the standings.

    Maybe one day they should let the public have a percentage of the vote. Some of us obviously know what we are talking about.
     
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    kronikcope Active Member

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    lol, 'stomped'....Yet you fail to mention he's ahead of Gurley, McCarron, Gordon, Winston, and every damn player outside of Manziel in the SEC.

    One of those guys who believes in miracles, I see, because one irrelevant team did it "back in the day" before I was born. Sorry your .0001% chance of Florida coming back from 23 down with 7 minutes left didn't happen. You've gotta be one of those guys who plays the lottery and expects to win every week too, right?

    Ahh, I see. Then please explain to me what in the world you see in Michigans football team that would indicate to any rational thinking person that they will defeat Ohio State. Harldy escaping Connecticut and Akron? A QB that has more interceptions than TD's? Inferior coaching? Please, I'm dying to know.

    Uh-huh...
     
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    Fourth place no matter how you look at it. In other words being stomped despite the astronomical numbers.



    Please stay away from trying to post probabilities, you look ridiculous when you do. I was simply proving a point, that a game is 60 minutes not 45, since you can't refute that as it is a fact, the rest of your post is useless. But there are many storied combacks in football, not just my example. Google is your friend, try it. I never play the lottery, I play blackjack and poker, the odds are better than a foolish lottery.





    Its not what I see in Michigan. They may win, they may lose. Here's the point, OSU considers themselves to be an elite program, right? Their record in big games leaves plenty to be desired. I also believe that when that game rolls around, that will pretty much be Michigan's "Bowl Game" and in Rivalry games, especially at the end of the year, you throw everything out the window. Here's a clue genius, the favorite or better team doesn't always win.





    Exactly.
     
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    but first rounders are supposed to be the cream of the crop and vetted completely.

    Here's a first rounder who should have been benched last year


    Mike Glennon to start Sunday for Bucs

    The rookie QB has received the nod over Josh Freeman to start against the Cardinals, Ian Rapoport reports.
     
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    will USF go win-less?

    Just a few years ago, USF took off undefeated, I believe 6-0 and even made the top 10 in rankings. Then, after slap-gate, they brought in the son of Lou Holtz and that was a disaster. USF competes with programs like UF, FSU and even "the U" for recruits. Basically, USF would get "sloppy seconds" but UCF is now getting better recruits and even FAU defeated USF.
     
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    With the advent of a playoff style system next year, you will see schools like this fall to the wayside. Small schools that are upstarts like this have a good run for a few years and poof they are gone. Has anyone heard a peep from Boise State? 14-2 last season, 2-2 already this season.
     
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    USF isn't really a small school with over 45,000 students. Heck, if it went by student population then UCF and Arizona ( or is it Az state) would be number 1 and 2 every year. Despite the SEC dominating the national championship, I'm starting to think that the nat'l championship should be abolished.

    Let there be a "champ" within each conference and bowl games should be left as a showcase where teams get to face off against previously unseen opponents.

    Maybe that would help the less desirable schools be able to recruit players
     
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    I am all for more football, yes I watch every ridiculous bowl game starting in mid December. UCF is actually lower on the list than 1 or 2 and no, I am not counting the online schools in the list...lol

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_colleges_and_universities_by_enrollment
     
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    Did you look past someone?
     
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    wow

    wasn't that game a 180 degrees different than what they were last year and years prior. SEC teams having a shootout, who wudda thunk it

    that LSU loss just about seals the deal for OSU vs Clemson nat'l championship regardless of what the Tide does
     
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    There is still a lot to happen before we start talking OSU in the national Championship. I believe LSU and Georgia would have to lose again (which would come in the SEC Championship) Bama would still have to lose and Oregon would have to lose. OSU will not be positioned high enough in the BCS where running the table will be enough to get them in. Its a really down year for the Big 10, and the PAC 10 is outstanding, which gives Oregon the better SOS, in my opinion. We really won't know anything until those rankings come out next week.
     
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    points to consider

    LSU: did they finally have the wake up call on defense that they sorely needed? The 2nd half of the game against Miss St looked like a different team

    Ohio State- did Northwestern reveal them to be not at strong as previously thought

    the ACC- is it real this year? Will FSU vs Clemson turn out to be a good game?

    Pac 12- is Stanford the only team which can stop Oregon? Will Oregon ever be given a difficult non conference game? I believe they still regret having had LSU as a non conf game one year and being quickly wiped away as a contender

    Drama- will Spurrier finally be fed up enough with Clowney and give him the heave ho much like Les had to do with Mathieu? Clowney now thinks himself to be bigger than the team

    and what about Mizzou!!!!! They are 5-0. They now face

    the Dawgs
    the Gators
    the Gamecocks
    Johnny football

    will they be able to pick up that bowl eligible win against Ole Miss, Kentucky or Tennessee ?

    I honestly think they will give the Gators a rough time and maybe even hand them an upset

    but congrats to Mizzou for having a great start but those clouds they see in the distance isn't a light rain shower; it's the meat of the SEC coming at them

    But, that will only make Mizzou a better team in the future as the coaches will be facing that caliber of teams vs if they were in the Pac 12
     
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    Mizzou isn't that good, they' ve played patsies so far. Vanderbilt was their first team of any consequence.
    I said it last year and say the same thing this year. Oregon will win the Nat'l Championship.
     
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    Make no mistake about it folks, FSU can line up and play with anyone in the country, no exceptions.
     
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    yup

    but, if Bama , Oregon and FSU have a clean sheet, will Oregon get the nod despite it's weak opponents?

    Saban has been quietly getting those lads in shape.
     
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    Missouri is in the top of their bracket in the SEC. It could be Missouri and Bama for the SEC championship. FSU just romped Clemson. Auburn just beat A&M. Georgia is hurting.

    I would love to see Bama and Oregon in the championship. But Bama may have a problem with Auburn. And Oregon has not yet beat Stanford.
     
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    If FSU, Oregon and Bama run the table, how can it not be FSU vs Bama?

    FSU would have gotten past Clemson, Miami, Maryland, FL.

    Oregon would have gotten past Stanford

    Toss Oregon to Ohio State in the Rose Bowl and let OSU give them a beat down
     
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    You make a good point. We will just have to see how it goes. FSU and Bama would be a good matchup also.

    I think Oregon can beat Ohio State. But I like Oregon better than Ohio State....except the Oregon uniforms!

    Bama games are just boring to watch.
     
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    Oregon can beat OSU and OSU can beat Oregon. Do not discount Urban Meyer as a coach. I know that it's the players who are on the field but Meyer knows how to win the big one and what it takes.

    As for Bama, I bet Saban would take that as a compliment. If you look at the BCS rankings, we see Bama came in as #1 and FSU as #2. I agree with that.

    Bama looked questionable the first few outings but Saban has got the ship stabilized and now they look boring. They go out and control the game and just win.

    Also, don't think for a moment that the comment from Saban about how he does not like to pile on the points, but that he sends out 2nd and 3rd stringers was not a shot directly at Oregon, Baylor etc.

    Bama does not need to go out and try to make the highlight reel. That is not the coach's style. They take the field, do their business and defy anyone to try and defeat them. Can you say NFL-esque.

    SEC fans knew that the east was weak this year but Mizzou was definitely a shocker. Also, the Dawgs are devastated by injuries. In FL, Muskrat is showing himself not to be up to the task. He is paying the price as kids are looking to FSU and even UCF. If you can to to FSU instead of Gainesville then go. If you can get play time at UCF instead of fighting for first string at UF then go to UCF. That means that FL is losing depth. Muskrat need only look in the mirror for the reason.

    Given what we have today I would like to see

    Bama/FSU

    Oregon/OSU

    Baylor/A+M this game IMO would be the most entertaining. Imagine a game with at least 6 touchdowns per team. It would probably take 60 points to win because neither team can run a long and boring sustaining drive. it's hurry up and score.

    Stanford/Clemson

    Miami/Mizzou

    LSU/UCF - I'd like to see how the mad hatter would try and stop the offensive line of UCF.


    and a game which I would enjoy

    Oklahoma/Auburn - neither team is getting much love but we could call this "the pride bowl" because those 2 teams would put on a good show
     
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    Oregon has weak opponents?..........like Bethune Cookman.........LMAO
     
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    I actually thought Johnny Football would pull off that win. Oh well.
     
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    this weekend

    will UCLA vs Oregon really be a good game?

    I'm not moved by UCLA at all

    Mizzou vs the Gamecocks will basically be decided by who can coach best through their injuries. I believe that Spurrier will have had some words with Clowney and the SC defense will actually show up for this game. This will be a good test for Mizzou to face some defenders who will be playing on Sundays.

    You have to feel bad for Tenn this week. The Tide are going to be really focused because they are preparing for LSU. If Bama can't hold Tenn to 10 points then Saban is not going to be a happy man, regardless of how many points they score.
     
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