Fox News Poll: Voters favor gun limits over arming citizens to reduce gun violence

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  1. ButterBalls

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    Well you can see how easily they are lured to it :)
     
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    it's just the lump of steel. What health problems do I incur for having a lump of steel?
    Yes. Every single election in the history of the country.

    Replies at all he can change the amendment really straightforward but we don't because we don't have the votes
     
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    I've been around them and using them for decades and I have no health concerns. You can't even compare them to something like obesity or fatty liver disease because those are things that you can kill you. Feeling dismissed guns in my proximity even touching my person so decades and I have no health effects from that.
     
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    They come up with these biased poles and say this means that the majority that votes in elections is really the minority. And somehow the gun manufacturers in League with the NRA possibly the lizard people are controlling the world
     
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    Ya, firearms are the underlying health risk ;)
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    But isn't saying firearms or health risk kind of like saying Lucky charms or health risk? They aren't really they only are if you eat way too much of them.

    Pointing a gun at yourself and pulling the trigger is a health risk but that's a pretty deliberate act. Just don't do that and you're 100% safe.
     
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    I was only kidding. There is no such thing.
     
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    Are you sure I could put a tactical grip and a stabilizing brace on a hedge trimmer.

    I guess that would be an assault clipper
     
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    That is it's function. That is what it's made for and they make it very easy to do so. Your type always use the same lame argument. Knives kill people but it's a tool made for other puposes. The same with a screwdriver, a baseball bat, a car or whatever you want as an excuse but the truth of the matter is they were all made for a different purpose. Let me ask you.....if you give an unhinged person the option of any of these objects to do harm, which will they choose?
     
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    it was an odd wording
     
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    We didn't have an army. We had militias.
     
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    Because bans work and there is no dictatoship in the works..........except Trump.
     
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    Really? WTF?
     
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    I think the idea is to prevent semi-impulsive violence by persons who are tempted to go out and buy a gun for the purpose of murder. Like they just caught their wife in bed with another man, so their first impulse is to go buy a gun and kill them both that day. But if they have to wait 30 days, they are more likely to cool off and file for divorce instead. Or try to kill them in a less effective way. There are black markets, but not everybody is "plugged in" to them.

    I don't know what the data says on the policy. It's just clearly not directed towards somebody like you.
     
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    Do you see people with any of those conditions going into a school or church to stuff people with doughnuts, pour alcohol down throats, force people smoke cigs or get them to watch monitors till they die? Your examples are irrelevant to the problem being discussed.
     
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    Thank you, someone that gets it!!
     
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    lol, there’s nothing like someone pretending to understand weapons who clearly doesn’t.

    anyway, we’re keeping ours because we don’t want to end up like you guys. Getting arrested for FB posts, getting arrested for defending your home, none of that sounds like a good idea.

    we have thug culture here and they shoot each other all the time when they’re not preying on citizens. If we gave ours up they’d still have theirs, so we’ll just keep ours. Also, you guys might get a wild hair and try and come back with pointy sticks.
     
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    Only in America can a kid work at Wendy's saving his money until he turns 18 and then LEGALLY buy 2 AR style weapons, over 1,600 rounds of ammunition, 60 30 round magazines and then kill 19 children and 2 adults.
    You, no doubt, have thoughts and prayers in response and nothing else.
     
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    yet a study by Duke University found out that there was no evidence waiting periods did that. In fact it's complete bullshit.
     
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    yeah but in most countries that 18 year old might be drafted and sent to say kill other people. If someone is old enough to die in combat, or vote, they are old enough to buy firearms. I get the fact you hate people being able to own guns because gun owners tend to vote against the socialists you want in office but here is a fact you probably are unaware of
    https://www.hrw.org/news/2022/10/11/us-stops-funding-some-militaries-using-child-soldiers
     
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    I can see a point if we are discussing ones first gun purchase. What purpose would a waiting period serve for those that already own a gun?
     
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    and making a gun collector wait thirty days won't stop a single death. and I think you know that. what I do know is there are many cases where women-armed with a protective order, tried to get a gun only to have to wait, and was in turn murdered. Do you know who the Manson family killed a day and half after murdering Sharon Tate? according to the DA who earned death sentences against those cult whack jobs, the second set of victims tried to buy handguns that morning but the California waiting period denied them the guns. they were murdered late that night IIRC
     
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    All this poll proves is the same thing that made P.T. Barnum's fortune: "There's a sucker born every minute."

    A significant portion of the American public have been suckers for Western MSM's anti gun bias(1) about guns in general.
    I can't remember when there has ever been a positive news story on any of the numerous shooting sports (2) not including Olympic competition that have attracted a surprising number of women(3) in addition to men.

    Another positive thing about guns is the fact that there are millions of D.G.U.s (Defensive Gun Use) every year that are rarely if ever reported to the police and even less frequently reported to to the American public by our MSM.

    It seems that the only thing that is considered newsworthy are gun related accidents, injuries or crime so, of course the easily duped individuals who have been fed a steady diet of anti gun rhetoric are going to support anti gun legislation that is only the beginning of a descent down that slippery slope toward eventual confiscation.

    Thanks,




    (1). “The AP provides another example of how media pushes an anti-gun agenda”
    https://thehill.com/opinion/nationa...ther-example-of-how-media-pushes-an-anti-gun/

    EXCERPT “While the original articles in the Star and Journal Gazette were balanced, the AP cut down the piece by systematically excluding one side of the argument — any information that concealed handgun permit holders are law-abiding and don’t pose a risk to others.

    Instead, the AP pushed only the narrative that concealed handgun permit holders pose a danger to others.

    The debate on guns would be very different if the national news media would report on some of the dozens of mass public shootings that have been stopped by concealed handgun permit holders. The media would also change public opinion if it reported on how virtually all mass public shootings take place in areas where citizens are banned from possessing firearms for protection. “ CONTINUED


    (2). “Different Types of Competition Shooting"
    https://schooloftrades.edu/different-types-of-competition-shooting/

    EXCERPT “The National Shooting Sports Foundation (NSSF) states that 19 million plus Americans safely invest their time in target practice. They use handguns, shotguns and rifles. Some of this is for fun and much of it is for competitive shooting. Practice makes perfect.” CONTINUED


    (3). "Top 50 Women in Competitive Shooting"
    https://www.ssusa.org/articles/2017/6/19/top-50-women-in-competitive-shooting/

    EXCERPT "From action pistol and bullseye champions, smallbore, high power and precision rifle masters, trapshooters and Olympic gold medalists—SSUSA has compiled this list of 50 (52 to be exact) female athletes that are influencing the ever-changing landscape of competitive shooting—for the better.

    Note: This isn’t a ranking, though we purposely grouped the first four women at the front in recognition of the attention generated by their respective shooting careers. Otherwise it’s a random selection, with the goal of presenting female shooters from as many disciplines as possible."CONTINUED
     
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    In my example, the buyer already has guns. I can see a point if we were discussing ones first gun purchase.
     
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    Like I said, I haven't reviewed the data, I just can tell what the intention is. Here's a study that says otherwise: Handgun waiting periods reduce gun deaths | PNAS ... and superficially it seems interesting but I haven't done a full review of their methods yet. Link to yours? Maybe we can see which is more compelling.
     
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