Free Market Fundamentalist Ideology is based on a Logical Fallacy.

Wrong. Trump's opinion is that he won the 2020 election. Mine is that he lost. His opinion is wrong, and mine is right.

Some are. See above.

And opinions that accord with facts are facts.

No. You need to consult a good dictionary.

 

The fact is that Biden won the election. We know that because he is in office. The opinions are that Trump believes there was enough voter fraud to turn the election to Biden and yours is that there was virtually no voter fraud. Both positions are opinions because voter fraud hasn't been investigated and never will be. So we are left with the fact. The fact is not an opinion. It is not debatable.

Hopefully I explained it above.

Opinions aren't facts are not in accord with facts. Facts are what they are. They aren't debatable. Opinions are not facts and are debatable. In your first paragraph you confused the fact with the opinions. That Biden is President is not debatable. It is a fact. That Trump is convinced that the election was stolen from him is opinion and is debatable. Don't confuse the two.

You got that backward.

 

That is a non sequitur. The people who win elections are not always the ones in office.

It has definitely been investigated, your incorrect opinion to the contrary.

Wrong. Lots of facts are debatable, and are debated. Consider evolution.

You got it wrong, as I explained.

You've never encountered a creationist?

Nope.

I didn't. I specifically said, "won the election," not "is president."

Nope.

 

What?

I've been asking for a report of an investigation of 2020 election fraud and nothing has come forward. You can't produce one either because it has never been investigated. The counts have been audited but that isn't a fraud investigation.

It is debated because it is still an opinion, not a fact. Facts are what they are. I view evolution as a fact but not everybody does. Hence it is an opinion. A fact is that Chicago is the largest city in Illinois. That is a fact and is not debatable.

Yes. I just addressed that.

One cannot become president without winning an election. Hence Biden won the election. Common sense and logic are OK as well.

 

Not so. I volunteered and worked as one of many on the investigation. There is no doubt in my mind what transpired. Scary stuff. No doubt there were improprieties far beyond anything we've ever seen in an election. It is now my major concern. Even more so than the border invasion.

 

Show me a report. I've been asking for 3 years. Otherwise, I don't buy it.

 

I would recommend you verify it first-hand yourself like I did. After 6 loooong weeks I had only managed to verify the metadata from 2 1/3 people. I did select random tracks though, for my own confidence. It's quite statistically insignificant, I am aware of that. But it was enough to prove to myself there was definitely some BS taking place. There was no need to spend my whole life in continuance. Nothing can be proven anyway. Like one of the Dems said, "There is no way you can prove who was voted for on the ballets. they could have been stuffing votes for Trump." And he is correct. Once the ballots get into the mix they're untraceable. Especially after the FBI raided the Georgia ballot repository and shredded all the ballots under Federal subpoena. What was that about? Although I seriously doubt ANTIFA and BLM were stuffing votes for Trump.

 

There has been no investigation of voter fraud. Such an investigation is not even possible because of the mass mailing of unsolicited ballots. There were count audits, not a fraud investigation. It is impossible for me to verify something that didn't happen. Don't mistake me. I don't think there was enough voter fraud to turn the election. But I know there was no fraud investigation. I don't even think there should have been a fraud investigation. I just want to keep the record straight and hope that the states abandon the practice of circumventing proper election security.

 

I don't think you understand what I am referring too. Though I didn't explain.

 

In 2022 I had some spare time. I volunteered to cross-reference the metadata to video they had. A LOT of video. I randomly selected 3 and started going through it all. I can't emphasize how laborious and boring a task it was. It took 3, 90 hour weeks just to cross-reference one person. I had to go through the metadata to determine each drop-off time. Then search through huge volumes of video to try and find the matching time spans and boxes. Watch the videos half a dozen times looking for one person who matched the metadata repeatedly. Once you do that you have to then go through 30 days worth of metadata looking for this same person. Log the video files and the exact times of the cross-reference. Then slow it down trying to estimate how many they inserted. Luckily in Georgia the ballot box slots are so thin they have to do them 1 or 2 at a time. The first lady averaged 17 visits a day (all different boxes, varying times, etc.). A total of 23 days with an average of about 8 or 9 per visit. Just her was close to 3000 total. She would go to about 3 or 4 then drive back to what I was able to view on google maps was fairly close to the BLM headquarters. No real evidence that's where she was getting them, but it's a good guess. The 2nd was a guy who appeared to get them from the same location (~1900 ballots). The 3rd was a white guy who looked like a bum. Wild unkempt hair, ragged clothes. He was apparently getting his near an ANTIFA office. Again, no proof there. Just a close proximity. Only verified about 3 days worth of metadata for him and gave up the ghost. I did a calculation and it would have required decades even with a large well paid work force to go through it all. Makes no sense to even try as by that time, who cares. You can't even get a name (though I think the FBI could if they investigated). They had ZERO interest in that from what I gather. And again, the Dems response at the time was, "How can you prove they weren't stuffing votes for Trump?". Though doubtful, it won't hold up in a court of law. Furthermore, the Dems have a right to contest every challenge in court one at a time. This is why they have limits on challenges as anything more than 0.5% is hopeless to address in time for the official count to be certified. Also quite boring. At first you are really stoked to look into it. Doesn't take long to say screw this. But I'm convinced it was likely enough to change the outcome. Especially in Georgia. But we'll never know. My concern is correcting the process going forward. Nothing has been done to prevent even blatant and massive fraud. And I'm sure they won't be carrying phones next time. All should be concerned about this whether you are Rep or Dem or Libertarian like me. Even if Biden is "your guy", the guy they put up next time may not be. Conceding the vote will preclude changing course. We will be forced to accept whoever they put up and they could easily get much worse (if that is even possible). Once we lose the vote, they won't even bother to care about the concerns of the electorate. I'm not sure if they are even still attempting to go through it all. Maybe in 100 years they'll look through it all for posterity.

 

Honestly I didn't have the energy to read all of that. Facts. Some states compromised election security by mass mailing unsolicited ballots. There was evidence of institutional fraud. We have no idea how much because voter fraud hasn't been investigated in all those states that mass mailed ballots. Biden won the election. Everything else is opinion.

 

Point is, I DID TAKE THE TIME to look into it first-hand. While verifying two individual's activity and partially another few days of a 3rd does not constitute a significant enough sample to show ALL of those identified in the Google tracking data, it showed me there was DEFINITELY a substantial abnormality during the 2020 election. It is possible and perhaps likely it was sufficient to alter the results in the 6 swing states. You are ABSOLUTELY correct there hasn't been a thorough investigation of what transpired. The nature of the crime is such as to preclude such an investigation. The cost would be enormous and the end result would most assuredly not prove conclusive. Every vote contested can be challenged in court and we are talking hundreds and hundreds of thousands of votes. Perhaps more. The ballots were destroyed by the FBI. Ballots cannot be traced so there is no means of identifying which ballots were stuffed. And then the Coup de Gras is, how can one prove beyond a reasonable doubt the compromised ballots weren't for Trump. It is hopeless and the expense is more than even Trump could justify. So we have to accept what we have and declare Biden the winner. It is what it is.

But this is an important issue for ALL AMERICANS. We must ensure this does not continue to be the case going forward. The mail-out, no ID, 30-day window, drop-off ballot experiment has been shown vulnerable. Remember, just because Biden is your guy doesn't mean this is without risk to Democrats. Once we cede control of the electoral process to ANTIFA, BLM or anyone else it usurps any power to alter course in the future. The next guy they put in may not be so favorable even to Democrats and it will be too late to regain control of the vote. Things have a way of turning south once they know they no longer have to answer to ANY of the voters. Such was the case in 1930's Germany when Hitler suspended elections and consolidated power in the Chancellory. Before Germans realized it they found themselves powerless and too frightened to stop them. They found themselves being ordered to execute men, women, and children at gunpoint and the populous (too scared to object) turned their gaze.

 

The reason I became motivated to look into it is an interesting story. I move A LOT!!! About twice a year on average for at least a decade. I am very conscientious about registering to vote whenever I move but not so conscientious about unregistering when I leave. In 2020 I moved to Maryland shortly before the elections during the height of COVID. I moved into a very nice apartment expecting to be there for 4 months. I checked my mailbox and found 7 ballots had been sent to my new address. They were all addressed to previous occupants apparently. I didn't think too much of it at the time. I then went to register and ran into all kinds of problems. I took off work twice and each time I was turned away, being told by a woman there the person I needed to speak with was out sick. They met by appointment only. After raising hell, on the third appointment she was at work (it turned out to be the exact same person who told me I would have to come back). I later learned she was the ONLY one who handled voter registration issues. She informed me it would be easiest to register online as they had recently set up a website allowing you to register remotely due to COVID. So I left and went home to register, disgusted to have wasted so much time. I should have been told over the phone.

When I tried to register online it required me to enter my Maryland DLN. I didn't yet have a Maryland driver's license so it wouldn't allow me to submit the registration. I called the DMV and got a recording saying the DMV would be closed for the next 6 months due to COVID and that the police would not issue citations for expired licenses. So I set up another appointment with the same lady as she refused to speak with me about it over the phone. She missed that appointment as well. To be honest I was convinced she was treating me badly because she was racist. She was black and I was white and I got the impression she didn't think my vote would be cast as she would prefer. No proof, just saying. I finally called several acquaintances of mine who happen to be Senators and Representatives. One of which was Elijah Cummings a representative of Maryland. Apparently he put the fear of God in her as she was beyond cooperative at my last meeting with her. She informed me their was a tiny check box on the website form which (if selected) would preclude one from having to have a Maryland driver's license number. It was quite small and wasn't labeled as to its purpose. When checked instead of a DLN field it popped up another window asking me to enter a 4-digit PIN (last 4 of SSN) with instructions to remember this number as it would be requested on the mailed-out ballot in lieu of a DLN. She said it was intended to be the last 4 of your SSN but they didn't have a process in place of actually verifying the SSN so any number like "1111 or 1234" would fine. Any 4 digit number which was easy to remember would suffice.

I was kind of perplexed and shocked. Clearly, this meant anyone could get online, register and request a limitless number of mail-out ballots. They could just use the same address and PIN for every one of them with different names. There was no real security or ID verification whatsoever as a result!!! I received my ballot, filled it out and went to drop it off at a ballot box 100 yards from my apartment complex at about 1 AM. In the process I had to wait for another guy who was submitting about a reem of ballots. I asked him what he was doing and he told me it was fine, he was a ballot harvester. Puzzled and not knowing what that even meant, I waited and finally submitted my ballot.

I decided to contact 6 previous states in which I had registered to vote to take my name off the roles. They informed me they weren't doing role removals at that time until after the election as it was too close to election time (40 days). 4 of those states said a mail-out ballot had been requested in my name by someone other than myself. 1 state said a ballot had automatically been mailed out to my listed address and it was illegal for anyone to submit that ballot so it wouldn't be a problem. After the election I again contacted all 6 states. One state said they had no way to track whether the ballot in my name had been submitted. 3 of the other 4 said they had received a cast vote from those ballots but had no other means of knowing how the votes were cast. I was stunned.

This is why in 2022 I took the time to look into the ballot box videos. I have worked in the past at various polling places years prior. And this in no way resembled how the elections used to be conducted. It really is a mess and nothing has been done to correct the glaring security issues caused by recent changes. It really is a dangerous development and something needs to be done to insure integrity is once again restored.