French Jihadists firebomb french building, Jihad in Europe

It is pretty accurate, the people came from various area's, age groups and educational levels,

 

I didn't dispute it's accuracy.
It's certainly accurate in showing what 0.0002% of the Muslim population think in regards of that topic. As for the other 99.9998% think, you cannot be sure.

 

This is how all stats are collected when you have a report about such a subject. Why would you doubt the numbers? The chance the numbers are completely off is absolutely 0.

 

I don't dispute the numbers.
I'm sure that 0.0002% of muslims gave these responses.

 

I am sure they represent the nations the survey was held in quite well. Making tens of millions of Jihad sympathizers a fact, and plenty of reason to stop all immigration from those nations.

 

I'm sure your sure; you have no motivation to think otherwise

I can go to a deprived area in the London and ask 1000 people if they thought the riots were needed, and if they would support the riots if they were needed. I would probably get a 100% response of yes and then I could suggest that all of the UK support the riots and looting that occurred.

Of course I KNOW that is utter rubbish, and my poll is completely useless.


Even if it does represent the thoughts of the other 99% in the world, which is unlikely, then it doesn't suggest that others will perform similar actions.

 

Once more the report clearly stated they asked mixed people in terms of age, education and geographical area.

 

Stop that...

You know Supaskip has already enough on his hand playing devils advocate that he can't be bothered to learn about how statistical analysis works...

 

And that makes a difference how? I can do the same for any poll and still get the results I want. It's an art form... seriously.

After all, Mark Twain's words have been turned to a famous quote for a reason: There are three kinds of lies: lies, da mned lies, and statistics


But again, I'm not disputing that the poll is incorrect.
I'm not disputing that the people polled were from a diverse selection of age, gender, location.

I'm simply suggesting that the poll numbers are far too low.
The poll suggests that only HALF of 0.0002% of muslims (so really 0.0001%) think that violence against civillian targets are justified. That's all the statistics reveal. You can apply that thinking to other muslims in different areas, but this in no way guarantees the result is the same. It could very well be, but 0.0001% is too low a figure to make that assumption.

Even if you were to make that connection, half is right on the fence to make any decisions about a specific group of people.

I learned about many many things, including statistical analysis, likely before you were a twinkle in your fathers eye. Arguing a specific side for fun doesn't indicate that someone is not knowledgeable about certain matters.... and particularly when the debate is on the internet; you, me, or anyone else can have insta-answers from google, so suggesting otherwise is pretty stupid (take that as a PA if you wish btw).

Besides. This thread would have died a death by now if I wasn't replying. I'm doing Dutchy a favor for his thread which I'm sure he appreciates. I'm not going to change his mind, but at least I can see who attaches to the same thoughts (I'm guessing you do, but I can be wrong in such assumptions). As usual, I haven't shown my real thoughts on this as it doesn't matter in the whole scale of things.

I know it's probably difficult for you to stop your trolling, but it makes it much more enjoyable to see ya squirm a little in your posts trying to find an angle of attack! Keeps a smile on my face when at work.

 

I don't need to put that much effort into debunking your nonsense really. Just the fact that you have to do a goole search to know about statistical analysis mean just that, that you don't know (*)(*)(*)(*) of what you are trying to talk about, as always.

Dutch posted about a credible study and you answered with your personnal opinion about it. Who do you think has more credibility in the end?

Then again, muzzi apologist would go to any lenght to defend their "friends".

 

The point of the study is that you cannot, nobody has ever discredited this research, except you.

 

Sure sure. If you are so good at googling, have a google of "Response Bias" and "Statistical Bias" as well as "Compound Questions". There are many many other similar methods. These are known issues that are adopted quite often - especially with US Presidential campaign offerings.. This is one reason I don't like polls, even if I may agree with what the poll is hinting at.

For someone running their mouth (or is that fingers) about me not knowing stats, you sure haven't done your research very well to see what I was talking about.

Not personal opinion so much as pointing out valid methods of compiling a poll. I'm not suggesting that happened, and I'm not suggesting the poll is wrong. I'm pointing out the poll questioned 0.0002% of muslims, and there is no reference to how the question was phrased, or the incidents that had happened in the areas that could bring tension/sympathy during the time the poll was taken. NOTHING is black and white. This poll was taken because there was an agenda; a reason for showing these stats.

Is that a reference to me? I am no more a "muzzi" apologist than I am a christian, jew, or budhist apologist. Pointing out issues with statistics doesn't mean I don't agree or disagree with the poll. I would point out the bias of polls regarding any topic.. but especially good when I see jew or muslim haters because they don't like to have doubt cast on them. You do brighten my day, ya know!

 

See my comments in red above.
I'm not discrediting the poll... I have pointed out this many times, but I guess you are blinded by your own desires on this post. I'm pointing out all polls usually have a bias - consider what side the person is on who is asking the questions, and what the driver is for asking the questions.

 

Of course you are trying to discredit the poll. That is the whole point of your silly 0.0002% statement.

You're the one being blinded by your own leftist view of the world where you think that the muzzi will sit with us and sing kumbaya....

 

I just told you otherwise, can't you read? Or do you just have to make it up as you go to appease yourself? If you are gonna argue that what I just wrote was actually inverse, then surely I am granted the same indulgence?

lol... I'm a center-right republican, if you are gonna try and classify me. I love how people try to assume they know you over the internet! Awesome!