Maybe he didn't personally but his administration backed the notion, an idea which he fully co-signed with. Obama doesn't deny the notion either. http://youtu.be/b3NUTciDeXk
No one in the Obama administration ever "promised" unemployment would stay below 8%. That is rank right wing media propaganda.
Yes they did. Not even Obama denies that they projected it. I guess Time Magazine is a right wind media propaganda machine, no? http://www.time.com/time/business/article/0,8599,1910208,00.html
You think I'm wrong to say this claim that Obama promised unemployment would not go above 8% is a right wing media propaganda creation? Fair enough. Let's do a little test. See if you can find any actual quoted statement by Obama where he promised unemployment would not go above 8% at any time. Then see if you can find any actual quoted statement by anyone in the Obama administration ever promising unemployment would not go above 8%. Then see if you can find any actual quoted statement by anyone in the Obama administration ever even saying anything about unemployment not going above 8% before the Stimulus bill was passed. Then see if you can find *any* article dated before the stimulus was passed saying *anything* about the stimulus and 8% unemployment. You might find a few things in this category. With all the thousands of times this claim about Obama promising the 8% as been made, it should be a piece of cake to find, right? Good luck. Believe me, you are not the first one. It's actually astounding when you think about it how so many people can believe so strongly that Obama made this promise, when it is entirely a fabrication of folks like Sean and Rush and the right wing propaganda media. Propaganda works and is very powerful.
The denials are left wing lies. It was their projection, what they claimed would be the result. Now you are going to hinge your entire argument on the use of the specific word "promise", claiming that gets them off the hook. The fact is it was the highlight of their proposal to create the stimulus. Roemer now regrets they said it. If they didn't say it then why does she regret saying it? And that has all been documented to you so spare us the denials and demands for links else I would pull up our previous conversations.
He will now claim that predicting that that would be the result if the passed the stimulus is not "promising" it. It's all a silly rhetorical game he will now play with you.
Obama hasn't seen a bump up in the polls since Seal Team Six killed Osama. The Vacationer in Chief is setting new personal records and I'm starting to wonder where the bottom is for him.
I'll trust our more astute members can spot the subtle difference between my statement and Bluesguy's rebuttal. I'll trust our more astute members can tell the difference between a "promise" and a "projection."
Sadly, more truth is to be told in your post, about this administration. So, it was a chart, and it was a "projection" apparently, by his economic people, inclusive of Jared. Let me fill you in how this can now play out, which I really...REALLY hope it does: Americans are crying for jobs, and their President plays word games with them. He saved enough room, to toss a few more of his team under the bus if needed, as he plays his "Hope and change, word games" with struggling Americans. It was projected by my team, not promised....See, I'm blameless, and THAT is what is really important. Right? Right America? Huh? Beautiful Iriemon. Projected but not promised. Personal and party over country. No wonder he is now so beloved by America. You, personally are right on this one I believe. Good for you. A gotcha worthy of repeating, and as often as I can.
Obama's economic advisors' forecasts and projections made back in 2008 about the severity of the recession were off. The Great Recession Obama inherited turned out to be worse than they thought back then. Economic projections are wrong all that time. People understand that. Remember when Bush claimed his tax cuts would not cause deficits and that they'd pay down the debt by $2 trillion? Remember when Heritage projected that the debt would be effectively paid off by 2011? Obama's economic advisors knew that of course, also. That is why their forecasts where full of caveats and warnings that their projections were subject to a large degree of error. But saying Obama's team was wrong on their economic forecast as they warned it migh be, which would be truthful, doesn't have the same kind of effect. So that is why right wing propaganda started this fabrication about Obama "promising" unemployment would never exceed 8%. Now its not an economic forecast that was off, but a broken promise. That sounds much worse, right? It is astounding how many people so firmly believe that Obama actually promised this, and then they express disbelief when they cannot actually find anything by him or his administration promising anything about it. And we've seen that fabrication repeated here over and over and over. Propaganda works. People are gullible and just believe what they are told. We see proof here every day, just like this thread. That is why they do it.
Never a promise, just a projection by his economic team. That matters to Americans looking for work. Not a broken promise, just wrong...so all is well in Obamaville, at least in his bizarro brain. Good catch though. Useful as well.
No one could find anything could they? Isn't it amazing, really? I was shocked when I first started searching for this because I had heard and read so many times about Obama's promise that unemployment 8%. I figured it must be in his speeches, or in interviews, or articles. I figured there had to be tons of articles about it. And yet I could not find *one* speech interview or article of anyone in the Obama administration even talking about the 8% unemployment before the Stimulus bill was passed, much less promising it. And that was when it dawned on me that this entire belief that a huge percentage of Americans must have was simply ... a fabrication. The power of the media to distort perception on a mass scale is really astounding.
Nope, not I anyways. Projection by his economic team, not a promise by him. The farthest I went was PoliticoFact, but haven't checked Beck resource archival areas yet, or some of the Freeper resource hounds. I'm pretty satisfied though, that it wasn't a promise, but a projection by his economic team. Not too much of stretch by the media, but, a stretch nonetheless.
That is the way propaganda works. You take a grain of fact and distort it. Just change a word and an economic forecast that was off becomes a broken promise. Is it significant? That is a matter of opinion. But with a dollar every time Hannity repeated this fabrication you could probably buy yourself a five star dinner. He seemed to thing it was significant enough to repeat over and over.
I never said that he said it. I said his administrator. More importantly his economic team. The 8 percent didn't just come out of thin air. His economic team made the projections themselves and made those predictions. You have videos of Obama being interviewed asking him about the Recovery Act and it's effects. He doesn't deny that his plan went on these projections. http://bit.ly/2Hiqcg Just because he didn't say it doesn't mean he didn't endorse it.
I didn't say you said it. I said neither he nor his team ever promised it. If you agree with me than there's nothing for us to argue about.
