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Gays have a disease, what about it?

Discussion in 'Gay & Lesbian Rights' started by Anders Hoveland, Mar 27, 2012.

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  1. Meta777

    Meta777 Moderator Staff Member

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    Actually the constitution protects homosexual marriage through the 14th amendment.
     
    Meta777, Sep 16, 2012
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  2. The Real American Thinker

    The Real American Thinker New Member

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    Talking to a brick wall.
     
    The Real American Thinker, Sep 16, 2012
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  3. SpaceCricket79

    SpaceCricket79 New Member Past Donor

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    Not at all.
     
    SpaceCricket79, Sep 16, 2012
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  4. dixon76710

    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    You have your views based upon emotions and hormones. I have mine based upon the Constitution and court precedent.

     
    dixon76710, Sep 16, 2012
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  5. rahl

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    no such distinction exists in the courts ruling.




    this is meaningless. procreation, and marriage are 2 seperate rights which are in no way dependant upon eachother.
     
    rahl, Sep 16, 2012
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  6. rahl

    rahl Banned

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    outdated state court decision. FEDERAL courts have smashed your argument to tiny pieces.
     
    rahl, Sep 16, 2012
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  7. dixon76710

    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    Only men and women are capeable of procreating together.


     
    dixon76710, Sep 16, 2012
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    irrelevant. procreation and marriage are two seperate rights which are not dependant upon one another.
     
    rahl, Sep 16, 2012
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  9. dixon76710

    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    Federal courts have had no impact on marriage laws. California still limits marriage to a man and a woman and DOMA is still the law in 50 states.
     
    dixon76710, Sep 16, 2012
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    "one of the basic civil rights of man. Marriage and procreation"
     
    dixon76710, Sep 16, 2012
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  11. rahl

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    your ignorance of the US judicial process is not my problem, as I keep pointing out.
     
    rahl, Sep 16, 2012
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  12. rahl

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    TWO seperate rights. you can marry without procreating. you can procreate without marrying. the two are not dependant upon one another.

    But maybe next time if you put it in even bigger font, it will change reality for you.
     
    rahl, Sep 16, 2012
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    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    You would seem to be the one not familiar with the judicial process. These lower court rulings have no impact upon the law, while the decisions I have cited are the law.
     
    dixon76710, Sep 16, 2012
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    nope. go back to 6th grade, and this time pay attention in civics class.
     
    rahl, Sep 16, 2012
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    No, Both Skinner v Oklahoma and Loving v Virginia were decided when those two states made a man cohabitating with an unrelated woman a violation of the law. Loving wasnt prosecuted for entering an interracial marriage in another state, they were prosecuted for cohabitating together.

    State governments could revoke all marriage laws tomorrow and no one would have a constitutional argument that it must be put back in place, because no state any longer requires marriage to cohabitate or procreate without violating the law.
     
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    Make a relevant point if you can.
     
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    Just did. that you aren't capable of grasping it is not my problem.
     
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    nope. two seperate rights not dependant upon each other. you can marry without procreating, and you can procreate without marrying.
     
    rahl, Sep 16, 2012
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    Really? How exactly are homosexual couples exempt from the 14th amendment?
    The only possible way I could see that happening were to be if there was some legitimate governmental interest in discriminating against them.
    Is there such an interest?
     
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    Meta777 Moderator Staff Member

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    Wow, straight to the ad-homs? Since when do you equate logic and reason with emotion and hormones.
    It is in fact my views which are based upon the prior, along with constitution and court precedent.

    In fact, I'll tell you exactly which parts, the 14th amendment, compelling interest rule, and narrowly tailored rule.
    So then, what constitutional provisions and court precedents were your views based on again? I think you may be projecting.

    -Meta
     
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    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    Here is your entire post.

    Declarative statements are not logic or reason.
     
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    The logic and reason are what lead me to make such a statement, they are the basis of it, as well as my views in general.
    I would expand on it if you would simply care to ask, rather than jumping straight to ad-homs.
    So now, exactly which part of that declarative statement is emotion and hormones?

    -Meta
     
    Meta777, Sep 16, 2012
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    Again, if 1 sees nothing wrong with gay and lesbian sexual behaviors, then the idea of trying to find a cure for this will offend you. Mainstream medicine has long lost
    neutrality on the homosexual/lesbian topic. Gay/lesbian groups side with gays and lesbians regardless. But in future a cure for homosexuality, such as pill, shot or surgery
    could be discovered. Science has already discovered cloning. As said by me, gay/lesbian sexual behaviors are often result of sex abuse and many gays (33%) report homosexual
    rape in youth. No, not all boys who are homosexually raped take part in gay activities in adulthood and not all gays were homosexually raped, but if a boy is homosexually raped
    especially repeatedly in youth, then yes, the likelihood is more that he'll do gay :toilet: sexual behaviors in adulthood vs. if he hadn't been-denying this is dishonest. Don't expect homosexuality
    to disappear anytime soon. Yes, it's the job of the repair therapists to discover the cure, but a cure for homosexuality could eventually be discovered and the world will be
    better without homosexuality. Abolishing sex changes and finding a cure for GID would make the world a better place as transexuality is worse than homosexuality-atleast homosexual
    behavior can be changed even if orientation does not change but transexuality is mutilating a body.
     
    funinsnow, Sep 17, 2012
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  24. dixon76710

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    I think most GID cases are just homosexuals, unable to accept their homosexuality.
     
    dixon76710, Sep 17, 2012
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    Wow, you're in a particularly pedantic little mood today aren't you? There is another interpretation of the word "mate" in common parlance which means to simply join up in pairs.

    In England, even, your "mates" are your platonic friends, same in Oz too if I'm not mistaken?

    Tell you what why don't you spend the rest of your life drilling down on minutiae you find in dictionaries and I'll spend my time saving up money to buy wedding presents for all the gays that will be getting married very soon in the sure hope that they'll be moving in just down the street from you?
     
    Colombine, Sep 17, 2012
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