Genitals and Gender

Discussion in 'Gay & Lesbian Rights' started by trumptman, Jul 15, 2023.

  1. Moonglow

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    Some are Butch about it while others are not.
     
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    Sterilizing a child because they don't fit a stereotype is sexual abuse. Quit saying this is an LGBT issue it is not.

    You finding yourself in the category of Fred Phelps.
     
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    Most people don't have a problem with it because most of the time people say things about Trump that aren't true.

    So anytime someone is saying something about Trump doesn't matter how true it is it's dismissed that's what happens when you lie and lie and lie and lie and lie about it.

    I'm a trump voter I have some real criticisms about Trump nobody wants to hear them. They want to rage blindly about something some scumbag in the media told them.

    You people have made it impossible to criticize the guy.
     
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    that's a disingenuous non-answer. there is no evidence that MAGA-WTF that might be-are assaulting the alphabet agenda crowd. and the assault on EDUCATION comes from the woke left that won't tolerate dissenting views. Saying grade school kids don't need to be indoctrinated that the trans agenda is somehow normal is not an attack on education. attacking capitalism, the bill of rights or the sanctity of women's sports is an attack on education
     
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    I'm actually part of the LGBT and it isn't Trump supporters that are strong against us it's trans ideology. Something else that needs to be distinguished is trans ideology has nothing to do with actual trans people. It's largely young men who can't get laid or who are autistic being taken advantage of to support this gender ideology.

    It's the left converting femboys to eunuchs, it's 100% the left converting tomboys to infertile women with scars across their chests.

    That is the anti LGBT movement. They hate us for being the sex we are and also attracted to the same sex.

    There are the Bible beaters homophobes they'll always be there. But there are also the Quran beater homophones and the left supports them.
     
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    Yes, exactly that. It it easy to say "ok, you be gay and I won't and we can both coexist and not tell each other what to think or do". Not so much for trans.
     
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    Is anal sex voluntary or not?
     
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    No one is forcing you or anyone to say things other than what they believe. At least not from the LBGT side. DeSantis and his ilk on the other hand....

    Given how many of the Christian extremists (who are not the same as most of the everyday Christians) would love to force people to worship as they do and say things they don't believe.

    And why would you believe that? I am not making any claims as to whether you are right or wrong. I want your reasoning behind your claim.
     
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    You've got a seriously warped mind.

    Preventing education, blocking care that has nothing to do with surgery or permanence, etc. is a travesty.

    And, you have no argument against that.
     
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    When the MAGA crowd eliminates education, THEY are the ones who are on the attack.
     
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    that assumes facts not in evidence. they aren't eliminating education
     
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    Yes, they absolutely ARE eliminating education on gender related topics.

    They are ending classes, removing books, punishing teachers who mention the topic - even when simply asked by a student, etc.

    If you think that's not a great idea, then tell Republicans to stop that.
     
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    should grade school kids be studying math and English rather than trans pronoun choices? I don't recall that topic ever coming up when I was in grade school nor when my son was in grade school.
     
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    OK, first of all, MAGA is removing the information from libraries and ordering teachers not to answer one on one questions. So, your concern about math doesn't hold water on those.

    After that, nobody is suggesting that we fail to teach math and English.
     
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    what is being removed and at what level.
     
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    Well, that is a lot of blather with no real meaning or I suspect actual relation to reality
     
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    Lols! Bill O’rielly’s books, the dictionary, the Bible…….
     
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    I think for many when I say that I don't care who people have sex with, marry, or how they dress or self identify. But when they demand that I adjust my behavior to accomodate their self image, I draw the line, especially if it means men beating up women in combat sports or otherwise gaining gendered advantage or privilege of what I and society at large consider to be not their gender.

    Personal identity and public identity are not necessarily the same thing. Your personal identity, how you self identify, is entirely up to you and in your own mind and choices. Your public identity is negotiated with society, and not entirely up to you.

    In the case of homosexuality, I don't think many would care or have any reason to doubt when a person says they are attracted to others of their own sex.

    In the case of trans, where a man says he is a woman, many don't believe that he is, and they should be free to function under that belief. It may be respectful to play along and call person you see as a man "she", but it should not be forced.
     
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    that is a meaningless response. what is being removed that has the woke warriors so in a tizzy? "hiding five o'clock shadow with makeup"? the best hose to wear on unshaven legs? when is "they more appropriate than them?
     
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    What's the point of this question? You know heterosexual couples have anal sex too and some homosexual couples do not.
     
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    when it's someone who supports transitioning children that says that to me it's a compliment so thank you.
    however preventing grooming and indoctrination to try and trick children into being sterilized for politics is commendable it should be the status quo but we have so many pro child abuse people in our society now it is becoming brave to stand up to them.

    There are no trans kids that doesn't exist until they are groomed into it. It is ideological.

    You can call it education it is grooming.
    Correct I don't argue against education I argue against grooming. I find it detestable and perverted.
     
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    No it isn't. Over the past 7 or so years public education has fallen drastically where is 7th graders are reading on a fourth grade level. I'm not going to blame woke for this. It's just that woke is a buzzard that scavages on the carcasses of dying things like a school system designed for a society that manufactures and it's stubborn people within the system that are resistant to change. This is the cesspool that woke breeds on.

    Basically when something goes woke that is a symptom of it dying.

    Public schools like to indoctrinate children into gender ideology. Gender ideology is anti LGBT it is conversion therapy for gay boys and lesbian girls.

    It is telling gay boys that they're really straight they're just girls that's the same exact thing conversion therapy did except for they tried to change the mind.

    Gender ideology is a vile cancer on our culture and it is absolutely homophobic. Worse than that it is extremely backward. It's a species we evolved past the idea of sex roles also known as gender roles it's the same thing. Put this backward nonsense cast us right back into it.
     
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    SOME of the same people, yes. Yes, hypocrisy exists. That doesn't make their concern wrong though.
     
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    I want to scream out loud that this guy gets it. It doesn’t make sense and it’s impossible for one to change their sex anyway. A woman that has penis surgery can’t get hard with a thought. And a man with a vagina will never bleed once a month. They physically are not ever doing this. They personally make me sick with disgust.
     
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    Your concern does not justify the attacks on education we're seeing.

    This charges of "grooming" and sterilization are absolutely not supportable.
     
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