George Zimmerman Arrested For Aggravated Assault With Weapon

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  1. superbadbrutha

    superbadbrutha Banned

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    Well trying to compare the two cases doesn't make any sense, so there was really no need to comment on it. I guess since Zimmerman murdered a unarmed black teenager he basically has a get out of jail free card.
     
  2. Ctrl

    Ctrl Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I guess when it is a black guy you presume innocence regardless of his violent history, but when it isn't... you assume he done it.

    Where I come from, treating people differently based on their skin color is called racism.
     
  3. justonemorevoice

    justonemorevoice Well-Known Member

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    Doombuggy: your ducking and bobbing is quite amusing to behold but lets get down to brass tacks, shall we?

    Where is your proof concerning your stupid claim about zimmyboys PTSD diagnosis? Im well aware that its not exclusive to our underpaid and under heralded vets (which you lied about by falsely accusing me of saying)BUT that does not mean that GZ has it.

    Furthermore, do not ever make the huge mistake of presuming that you know how i feel about anything. capiche?

    Now, about that proof. Can you provide it or not? Did you make the claim he has it or not? Its really very simple to ken....even for you.
     
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    justonemorevoice Well-Known Member

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    Wth are you going on about? What spun things did i claim?
    Im not even considering the martin case in this. Im talking about his domestic abuse. Are you denying that it exists?
     
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    justonemorevoice Well-Known Member

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    No! I guess i worded it wrong. How many accusations will it take before his "supporters (not you)" finally go, "damn, he really should be in jail."

    Does that make more sense? Im kinda groggy (good pain killers....lol).
     
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    Sadanie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Can you post a link about Trayvon Martin "violent history?"

    We all know that Zimmerman's "violent history" has been well documented, and continues to be!
     
  7. zbr6

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    Do you see me, or anybody else here, saying that?
     
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    We’re watching you…….lol. You must be a worthy adversary
     
  9. Sadanie

    Sadanie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Your comments are sick. . .as usual. But then. . .they match your reading comprehension!
     
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    justonemorevoice Well-Known Member

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    Hes a'ight. Lol.
     
  11. TheTaoOfBill

    TheTaoOfBill Well-Known Member

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    I'm not muslim and I enjoy beer and bacon. So what do you think?
     
  12. Hummingbird

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    LOLOL!.......

    The only case case I was fixated on was the Casey Anthony case. That beautiful little 2 yr old who disappeared and 3-4 nights later, mommy was out dancing..... of course, the lying psycho(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) walked and that's b/c the defense screwed up by putting the DP on the table w/o enuf evidence.....

    Well, someday that psycho(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) will get hers. I do believe in Karma.
     
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    Oh yeah! I did watch OJ as much as I could b/c of working and was interested in the Lacy Peterson case......And the Duke/LaCross case. But the Caylee Anthony one really ripped at my heart.....

    Friends and I would discuss the case while going on, then a verdict would come in, we'd cheer or cuss. Then somehow our lives went on. Strange how that works......

    But I'm still waiting for that psycho(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) Anthony to get hers.......
     
  14. Ctrl

    Ctrl Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I know he has never been convicted of anything.

    However my original post to SBB was asking him to replace the comments he made about Z with the name Brown, who had just left a strongarm robbery... yet he insisted we give Brown the benefit of the doubt regarding fighting with the officer.
     
  15. Sanskrit

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    As far as the present matter, YES, as a matter of legal fact it DOES NOT exist until it is PROVEN in a court of law beyond a reasonable doubt or Z pleads guilty to this or a lower charge. THE END. Thank GOD you aren't our justice system or we would be living in the equivalent of a witch-burning disgrace of a backwards culture. Some people in this forum need to go and watch "The Crucible," or one of the movie treatments of that play, or just dig into McCarthyism. You are doing the exact same thing.

    As far as past "domestic abuse." An ex filed for a restraining order on nondescript charges of abuse. Z in turn filed for a restraining order on her. Both were granted, later expired without incident, and neither was extended. Those are the FACTS. NO CHARGES WERE FILED. She claimed he had pushed and hit her, he claimed she had hit him and threatened him with a baseball bat. Attributing a "history of beating" to the man based on these conflicting stories and ignoring his claims that she was the aggressor when no charges were filed is a legal LIE. No history of domestic violence exists as a matter of law because no charges were filed and no convictions obtained. Welcome to "bad relations gone wrong" in the US, not some concocted "history of domestic violence" towards partisan political purposes.

    I don't know how this matter will turn out, neither you nor anyone else does either. Your zealotry over the Martin decision is blinding you and so many others to the actual facts.
     
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    The story as told by NBC:

     
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    You know squat doodly. Zimmerman has never been convicted of a violent crime. He was charged with resisting arrest with violence and entered alcohol treatment instead. Believe me, if you actually fight with a cop in a material way, there's slim chance they will reduce it or let you go into alcohol treatment. As easily as it was pled away, it was probably nothing but trumped up disorderly conduct. You want to believe in this "violent past" of Z's because you want to believe in his guilt in the Martin matter, but the facts don't back that up.
     
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    The "actual fact" is that Zimmerman sure manages to find himself in circumstances where violence comes into the picture quite frequently...coincidence or a telltale sign of underlying anger and violence issues? An educated guess would point to the latter. BTW..I've both read and seen he Crucible and there is no resemblance between George Zimmerman's character and past history and that of John Proctor or of any other characters in the play for that matter.
     
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    He may never have been "CONVICTED" as yet. . .(thanks to mommy and daddy!), but he certainly has built a nice , steady history of encounters with the justice system, that follow a very clear pattern of over-reacting and violence.

    This will follow him until the day he gets put away for good. . .I just hope it will be before he kills another innocent person.
     
  20. Sanskrit

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    There is no material evidence of a pervasive "history of violence" and Zimmerman other than the Martin killing. In all likelihood, he got in a drunken brawl (very common, I've been in them) and when police tried to break it up, they didn't stop immediately. It's very common for this to happen, and the dropped charges and entry into an alcohol program is the common outcome. Had he -really- hit a cop or -really- violently resisted arrest, he'd have done time for it, guaranteed. They very rarely let such cases go to an alcohol program if there was real violence against a cop... an alcohol program is essentially sitting in 12 or so 1 hour classes over a period of weeks, barely even a slap on the wrist.

    Already dealt with the "domestic violence," and this latest wine bottle thing is absurd within the context we know so far. Other than the Martin killing, there is no more "history of violence" with this guy than with tens of millions of average young men in this country. No significant evidence of "underlying anger and violence issues" whatsoever other than in social worker govspeak land.

    "The Crucible" is the story of people rushing to judge based on hysterical, emotional reactions as opposed to rational evidence and legitimate legal process leading to proof of commission of a crime. Sorry if the obvious similarities between that and the uninformed estimations of Zimmerman's guilt in this instant matter zoomed over your head.
     
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    And his 'very clear pattern of over-reacting and violence' tells you what? Come on, person who had said she worked in a mental health facility, what does that tell you? If that was your husband, son, whomever - who had been acquitted on the same circumstances that GZ had been and their life had been spiraling downward ever since... what does their behavior tell you?
     
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    I have never been "hysterical" over anything involving the Zimmerman/Marin homicide case and just always understood that there is probably a 99% chance that if any other voluntary watch person was on patrol that fateful evening, we would not even know who GZ or TM is/was. He is reactionary and there is no doubt that he is more apt to respond to violence with violence as opposed to diffusing a situation. He never impressed me as a person with smarts. No one in The Crucible could have EVER been guilty of the crimes that were accused of and punished for as opposed to incidences that GZ has been involved with and in which he could very possibly be actually culpable.
     
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    Good for YOU in YOUR situations. We are talking about if GZ was in reasonable fear of his life in that situation. Its MORE than reasonable, perhaps you should take the time to base your verdict upon the law rather than to base it upon your racial bias.
     
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    An opinion is based upon an individuals judgment and logic in assessing a situation and not on legal technicalities. Juries very often are forced to acquit even though in their personal opinions, the defendant is guilty.
     
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    And that is the very essence of, if not a hysterical response, an emotion-laden one. The Z/M fact pattern can lead to no "99% chance" of any claims other than the following facts: 1. A man was attacked by another man. 2. The attacked man pulled out a gun and killed the attacker. That's IT, that's all you or I know unless we sat in the jury box and listened to the actual evidence allowed and presented. And even if we had, no "99% certain" claims hold water.

    As to the first claim, you don't know that, it is not a matter of "no doubt" at all, and the Crucible analogy is an apt one.
     

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