George Zimmerman's Girlfriend Wants to Drop Charges, 'Be With Him'

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  1. Bluesguy

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    And the one Zimmerman confronted was later killed in a similar circumstance when he again failed to identify himself.

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    If it was his property prove it. Was it given back to him?

    The claim was there was never a report of stolen jewelry that matched the items in Martin's possession. Here another link with links to the Miami Herald article and the police reports.

    http://thehuffingtonriposte.blogspot.com/2013/07/the-curious-case-of-trayvon-martins.html

    So do you admit there WAS such a police report? Do you admit that Martin failed to account for his possession of them? Do you admit the items were not returned to him as they would have it they belonged to him?
     
  2. Bluesguy

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    No as he was being requested to do by the NEN dispatcher he was watching, observing like neighborhood watch people do.

    Nope he was roughing him up and forcing him outside the building and had not identified himself.

    Did Zimmerman know he was a cop yes or no?

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    Was Zimmerman assaulting someone whom Martin came to the aid of else what does one have to do with the other?
     
  3. Bluesguy

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    How about you? Ready to tell the truth about your fallacious claims Zimmerman committed an assault and a stalking that night?
     
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    Neighborhood Watch---Watch and report. George had fulfilled his duties. He should have just driven away.
     
  5. Bluesguy

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    The claim was there was never a police report of stolen jewelry that matched the description of the unaccounted for jewelry in Martin's possession. There was as I cited. Multiple pieces that matched. So a reasonable case can be made that the jewelry was stolen.

    Refute it.
     
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    No one believes people should be charged with crimes they did not commit....thus we have a trial to prove innocence or guilt. Zimmerman was proven innocent of murder. His charges before and after the trial on various occasions however, do indeed point out that the man may not be worthy of defending.
     
  7. Bluesguy

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    Jewelry matched that on a police report of stolen jewelry, Martin refused to account for his possession of it, screwdriver was not in his garage but in his backpack with the jewelry. That will get you convicted.


    The claim was that there was no report of stolen jewelry, are you ready to admit otherwise?

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    Defending against what?
     
  8. Bluesguy

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    And what does the weight of the evidence say about the jewelry?

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    You don't think they should be held responsible for their own actions or lack thereof?
     
  9. Bluesguy

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    Sorry did I miss the part that Martin assault Zimmerman before he left the truck?
     
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    Yeah Gorge didn't know who they were.

    Still looking for proof that he didn't. Unfortunately every link that comes up now is the loser's latest (*)(*)(*)(*) up.
     
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    Jewelry, like the ones that were reported, are mass produced. This is common knowledge. It is the same if you reported a white Toyotal Camry leaving the area. There are at least a few dozen in the county and several thousand in the state. And unless you have the license tag to match that particular car, then it is looking for a needle I na haystack.

    the point is that the jewelry in the second police report and those that were in the first police report are that of a white Toyota camry leaving the area and no one knows what the license plate number is. To match that general description of the jewelry, you need identifiable marks on said jewelry and compare them between the two police reports.

    And if you read the two police reports for what they are, two police reports, you would know that instead of trying to assume certain facts that are not know or in evidence.

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    You are intentionally ignoring some of GZ own statements. GZ state he left the truck. GZ did not state that TM confronted him when he was in the truck.
     
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    If you have read the second police report or the news articles that have accompanied the second police report, you would know that TM did state that he was holding it for a friend. That is a statement of his account and no, you need a wee bit more evidence for a conviction.
     
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    the items were similar, not exact. There is no evidence in either or both police reports to conclude TM was the culprit or knew somebody who did the robbery. Like I said, it is coincidence and somewhat suspicious, but being suspicious is not evidence to warrant either an arrest and/or a conviction.
     
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    Still trying to pull that line that was totally refuted at trial I see.
     
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    Yes as in unlikely that it wasn't broken, so the weight of the evidence is that it was broken.
     
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    The weight of the evidence is that he did, what evidence was produced at trial that proved otherwise?
     
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    So what? That means he can assault someone with impunity?

    Had he not been killed that night he could have been charged as an adult for felony assault.

    So what is your point?
     
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    Nope he was requested to keep an eye on the suspicious person and let the NEN dispatcher them him know what he did. Your assertion is entirely specious.
     
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    You prove it wasn't his property.

    Thats the question I have been asking you, where is it?

    Its all basically one man's opinion who is trying to make a case. We didn't hear anything from the Police Dept, the school or the school resource officer.

    Post the police report since you claim there is one.

    Was Trayvon ever arrested and charged with possession of stolen property? I don't know if the items were returned to him or not until the police dept says they are still sitting in their property room who knows were they are.

    All I know is he was never charged with stealing any jewelry or being in possession of it.
     
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    There are plenty who wanted and still want Zimmerman charged with something he did not do.

    So can we apply that to others too? IOW if you have a criminal background we no longer have to provide public defenders? If you and your spouse ever had a domestic issue you are no longer allowed a public defender?
     
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    No he didn't assault him, he just thought Trayvon had a gun and might be coming to use it.
     
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    How was it refuted? Oh thats right the claim was that Zimmerman was this fat weakling and Trayvon was this 158lb teenager with super strength. Sorry, only another weak ass man would buy that BS.

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    No, the weight of the evidence is we don't know whether it was broken or not.
     
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    why is it I have this mental image of some fat chick with rollers in her hair and a cigarette dangling from her lips screaming "lock his sorry ass up officer, lock his ass up" from the front door of a broken down mobile home
     
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    So what, no one claimed they were hand made one of a kinds.

    Your made up scenario is entirely specious as you are comparing one item to multiple items. If 12 Camry's of different years and models were stolen and the police found 12 Camry's matching those discriptions in Martin's garage had he refused to account how he obtained them, along with a tool to break into them he would be arrested for theft, receiving stolen property at the least.

    I know, that was not the point.
     

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