Georgia Republican go after Prosecutors…..

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  1. grapeape

    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Do you even understand that when prosecuted, these cases actually go thru the same process as every other criminal cases i america which is a jury of their peers. You know these prosecutors still have to prove their case ?

    When they arent allowed to even bring the case, or are stopped by politicians from even trying the case, THAT is interfering in th judicial process…..

    You cant be serious here…
     
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    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Just WOW……friggen WOW…..


    Re-read the bill you just posted, and then tell me again how it isnt the legislative branch giving themselves the authority thru elected officials in the state to stop what they consider political prosecutions ?

    Hmmmmmm:
     
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    ...Georgia Republicans are most angered by Deborah Gonzalez, a district attorney who covers two counties including Athens, Kemp’s hometown. She’s under fire for refusal to prosecute marijuana crimes, an outflow of prosecutors working under her, and failure to meet court deadlines.

    ...The effort was born from frustrations involving a white Republican prosecutor in suburban Atlanta who was indicted for bribery related to sexual harassment claims. He lingered until he pleaded guilty to unprofessional conduct and resigned in 2022.

    ....Crucially, the Georgia bill mandates that a prosecutor must consider every case for which probable cause exists and can’t exclude categories of cases from prosecution.

    Hessick said considering every case individually is an unrealistic standard because prosecutors turn away many more cases than they accept. She said the Georgia law is less likely to change prosecutors’ decisions about which cases they pursue than to muzzle their ability to talk about their decisions.

    “It’s designed to stop them from running on these platforms of reform,” Hessick said.

    The rules could also target prosecutors who declared before Roe v. Wade was overturned in 2022 that they would not prosecute abortion-related offenses. Seven current Georgia district attorneys made such pledges, among dozens nationwide.

    https://apnews.com/article/georgia-...e-discipline-dd06c56d0d0672e38ef11f4c63dda468
     
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    drluggit Well-Known Member

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    So, define this "easy to defend" notion in the law? I suspect you are unaware that government doesn't seem to find themselves responsible for the court costs of these little attacks. So, you are financially injured, your reputation is dragged through the mud, all the while your "easy to defend" case takes years to proceed. That's why folks call it law fare.
     
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    So, you're worried that the Orange Stain will run out of money with which to defend himself ? How sweet. Well, you can always follow all the other sheep and donate.
     
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    drluggit Well-Known Member

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    Hmm.. So your theory of the law is that it doesn't matter how much it costs folks to defend themselves from government prosecution. Got it. And if they can't afford it? Then what? Off to the gulag? how soviet of you.
     
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    Fake News. The problem here is the prosecutors refusing to bring the case, nullifying the law if they disagree with it, or disagree with applying the law against certain favored groups.

    Even TX governor Abbott is ready to start holding rebel prosecutors accountable. If prosecutors want to resign and be defense attorneys who prep arguments for juries, they are free to do so.

    And of course lawmakers have the power to change a law, that's the very definition of their position.
     
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    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    You want the justice system perverted for political reasons. Don't complain when it gets done to your side. I mean, this is what you wanted. Don't complain because you got it.
     
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    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    It's a rigged trial. You know it's a rigged trial. Don't whine when the legislature attempts to un-rig it.
     
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    It’s amazing to watch righties fabricate what people say about topics to which they have already pre-judged . Throw in a little exaggeration and hysterical hyperbole for drama and they’re victorious !
     
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    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    What did he fabricate?
     
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    And how do you know it's a "rigged trial" before the trial even starts?
     
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    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    The charges are bullshit. That's one indicator. The juries are from deep blue, anti-Trump counties. That's the second indicator.

    The foreman for the grand jury admitted publicly how excited she was to indict Trump.
     
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    There have been no charges. The foreman of the Grand Jury issuing any possible charges hasn't spoken in public. The juries are selected under accordance with the law.

    So far you're batting an Oh Fer.....

    Care to strikeout some more?
     
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    drluggit Well-Known Member

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    I noticed you didn't try to answer the question. So, deflections, misdirection, it's what you do.
     
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    She was the foreman of the SPECIAL Grand Jury which, under GA law, cannot issue indictments. All they did was issue a report recommending indictments. It is now in front of a regular Grand Jury who will decide, using the report (that has not been released to the public) and other evidence (which has also not been released to the public), whether or not to issue indictments.

    So what you have claimed is that there is a rigged trial (which hasn't happened yet) based on trumped up charges (that haven't been issued yet) based on the statements of a Grand Jury foreman (who has not spoken in public nor been identified).

    As I said, Oh fer.
     
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    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    hahahahahah….FFS

    Prosecutors make decisions all the time. The biggest decision they make is “can I win this case”. That is 90% of the debate in determining factor in taking a case to trial. The idea that you think politicians have the right to demand that a case go to trial, or that someone should be even prosecuted is astounding.

    But like everything in this country anymore, its all about the issue, or the political affiliation that determines what happens. This is 1000% about Trump.

    2016 Republicans……”Hillary had the potential to leak classified information….LOCK HER UP…..LOCK HER UP…..How dare they not prosecute her !!!!”

    2023 republicans….”You cant prosecute Trump for actually stealing thousands of classified document and showing them to people not cleared to see them…THIS IS POLITICAL PROSECUTION !!!!!
     
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    So what? You said it never happened. That grand jury exhibits how a jury will be very anti-Trump if it comes from Fulton County.
     
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    My comment was about the Orange Stain , specifically. As for fabrication, he seems to think the government doesn't pay their lawyers and prosecutes anybody and everybody indiscriminately. Fabrication.

    He also uses words like "gulag", which we don't have here. Fabrication.
     
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    It didn't happen. No indictments have been filed against Trump (or anyone else) in Fulton County over the 2020 election.
    You're confusing a regular Grand Jury with a Special Grand Jury, which cannot issue indictments.

    Furthermore you're basing your opinion on the interviews of the foreperson of the Special Grand Jury who, in all of her interviews, never mentions Trump. So any "anti Trump" bias you think may be there has not been expressed by her.

    Also you do not know what indictments the Special Grand Jury recommended as that part of the report is still under seal.

    You also don't know what evidence and/or testimony the Special Grand Jury heard. For all you know someone testified that Trump said, "I know all of this illegal but I have to stay in power so do what you have to"

    In short with absolutely nothing you have decided that the trial is going to be rigged.
     
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    What serious question did you pose ?
    Afford ? Then what ? Use a public defender.
    Off to the gulag ? Since you are, apparently, unaware, we don't have those here.
     
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    LOL.. yes, a public defender... Of course, they're the best, right? Let me know when you purposefully choose to use one even if you could afford a different option. Folks call it law fare for a reason.

    Ask the J6 defendants about the Gulags.... Did you know a 69yo grandmother got more time for walking into the capitol that day than Hunter got for tax evasion and a gun charge?
     
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    Yes because we have too many who run for the office of political purpose and gain and then abuse the power of the office to achieve that. Why do you think the Attorney General of the United States is not an elected office nor that many US Attorneys throughout the land?
     
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    How is it done on the federal level?
     

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