Germany’s rich put their children in special ‘migrant free’ day care centre

There's no such thing as unified cost for Kitas in Germany (I live here). How much parents have to pay depends entirely on what the local community charges. Some communities charge around 200,- per child, others only 100,-, others nothing, and in other communities parents only have to pay for meals. It often depends on the income.
http://www.spiegel.de/lebenundlerne...d-kitagebuehren-in-deutschland-a-1209596.html
https://www.presseportal.de/pm/122186/3615261
There are no day care centers for 'children for rich parents', the op is misleading. We also have to distinguish between Kita and Kindergarten, these are not exactly the same and there are different definitions for Kita. Preschool care in Germany is not really a unified system.

 

In general integration hasn't failed but the German state is failing at giving people who don't want to be a part of our society a farewell kick in the ass.

 

So then Frenchmen who emigrated to Germany or were (that were many in history) should rename their French name to a German name ... Italians who have emigrated to England, adopt an English name etc.?

How do you do that then with a country like the US, what came of immigration from all kinds of countries? Should they all get an English name?

 

The US is a special case. But globally yes a french should change for a german name and so on. That's can be complicated because now there is people having french name for centuries in Germany like Thomas de Maiziere (? I don't remember exaclty his name) but it's globally better this way. At least you should adopt local first names.

 

A good point which I support so far!

 

Yes, Thomas de Maiziere was a former minister of interior in Germany and his ancestors came from France. Around 1680, many French Protestants - called Huguenots - fled to Germany following the persecution of Catholics in France (one can also speak of a small genocide doen there) ... the numbers of historians vary between 50,000 and 100,000 people. Many went to Protestant Prussia with the capital Berlin.

You can forget about changing the first name ... look around in your personal environment who has all first names that are not original from your country.
When I look around I come straight to 4 x Kevin, 1 x Chantal, 1 x Linda, 2 x Dennis, 1 x Celine, 2 x Maxime, 1 x Zoé and 3 x Gianluca. No German first names ... but all are pure German native children!

 

I read it was more or less $150 on average, and looks like it was not too far off. I also said I never heard of the migrant-free day-care places which the OP says are very common.

 

Ehm ... you certainly mean the so-called "OGTS" which translates to "open all day care". The 150.00 EUR mentioned by you are not correct, because it depends on the income of the parents, how much to pay here.
It is also the case that this is an additional offer where both parents are away from home all day and it is not obligatory to do it. In my case, this is perceived only in elementary school, later not more for my 2 sons!
But it is correct that most children (99%) go to normal, public schools. However, there is also something like a small two-class society, which usually depends on which district or which "area" the school is.

Maybe to explain the other ...
In Germany, the education system is a matter of the individual federal states and not of the Federal government and there are correspondingly also small differences. For example, in one state it was or is that children have 4 years of elementary school, but in another 6 years. In general, however, there are these types of schools in Germany:

Elementary School - for all the same from age 6 on and for 4 or 6 years, depending to the state. After this follows the choose of the next level, which also depends to the rating how good a kid is etc.
- Secondary school up to 10. class, about age 16
- In English "Modern Secondary School" called, also up to 10. class / age 16. A good record gives the right to change then to the next level of high school...
- High School, currently up to 12. class, but in discussion to go back to 13. class system of before. A graduation gives the right to study at a college / university

And then we have also the Comprehensive School which is a mix of all the 3 schools under one roof. It is most liked school type in Germany...

 

Can't comment on the Enlightenment.
But Islam was not conducive to inquiry. Nor was Hinduism or Buddhism.
Only Christian society gave us democracy and the scientific revolution.
But the Industrial Revolution happened in England. Not Africa, not Turkey and not even Germany.
England had the world's highest wage, I understand, and with lots of coal and an educated work
force, it made the development of mechanization so much easier.

 

If you're rich you can choose wherever you want your children to be educated. The educational system in Germany is far superior to ours in the U.S. Both domestic and international undergraduates at public universities in Germany can study for free but I don't think it's doing children any favors by not introducing them to other cultures and people unlike themselves. It fosters a narrow-mindedness and fear of the unknown. I think it was a plan for the past 30 years in the U.S. to educate our children less in public schools, particularly in inner city schools, so that they'll grow up ignorant and malleable.

 

The separation of state and church has also existed only in Christianity, the reasons are many.

But again ... all that you perform here took place at times when the continent of Africa was completely colony of the European powers, respectively the Ottoman Empire. And colonies do not develop independently and never can! So she had not had a chance!

P.S.

And btw ... yeah, the industrial revolution first took place in the UK, but it spread very quickly in a few years across Europe! And some innovations did not come from England ... although of course most of them are "Made in the UK".

 

LOL, the Ottoman Empire was never European. The Ottoman government was consisted of Turks, and the soldiers were mostly Arabs and Africans.

The Bulgarian martyresses, a painting depicting the rape of Bulgarian women by Ottoman troops during the April Uprising of 1876:



We can all see how "European" they look.

 

Culturally you are right ... not geographic! Where is Istanbul?

And here was the talk of Africa and North Africa was for centuries under the control of the Ottomans ... until, in particular, the French replaced them!

 

One foot in Europe, one foot in Asia. Straddling the Bosporus strait (which separates Europe and Asia).

 

Not sure what you are getting at. But the Industrial Rev would not have happened in Africa
in the past two millennium. Period. You needed lots of other revolutions to happen before
you started building steam engines - and not one of these happened in Africa.
That doesn't mean Africans are stupid.

 

Turks, and Arabs yes, and north Africans, who were basically Arabs. Not many sub-Saharan Africans.

 

Quite possible that you read 150,- somewhere, especially if it was an English speaking website/paper. I've been reading such websites/papers for years and very often I'm really surprised at how inaccurate they report German domestic politics (and I'm not talking about breitbart, gatestone, gatewaypundit, etc.). This chart shows how differently communities charge day care (doesn't include Kiel, one of the most expensive ones). https://www.netzsieger.de/ratgeber/der-grosse-kitakosten-index
It depends on what the community itself charges, how many hours per day, some communities take the parents' income into account, others don't, etc. Summary is this: if the household income is not higher than €2,000,- monthly, day care for one kid is between €20 and €40 per month. Income above €2,000,- monthly = day care more expensive.
You're absolutely right about the alleged 'migrant free day care centers' the OP claimed exist, that's why I mentioned that the title is misleading (like so many threads started by that user).

 

I mentioned $150 as an average. That is actually very affordable. In US the average is about 10 times higher at around $1500. I know some lower income people who gave up their jobs because it didn't make sense to work 8 hrs a day, and then spend most of the salary on daycare. Makes more sense to stay at home and take care of your kid.

 

How is this any different that what Americas rich do???Where do the likes of Dirty Donald and Tucker Carlson and newly elected supreme court justice Kavanaugh go????