'Get a good job': Joe Hockey accused of insensitivity over advice to first-home buyer

This man is just so far out of touch with reality, he just has no idea of the "Real World" and yet we entrust him with our treasury. God help us.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-06-09/joe-hockey-accused-of-insensitivity-over-sydney-house-prices/6532630

Yes Joe it is so easy, maybe it is if you have mates in business like you and your LIB mates, but the real people, the workers, the ones who do the heavy lifting, the ones who work in the small business that your sun shines from, the ones who empty your garbage after you have your cigar and merlot, they have no chance to EVER own a home.


Pffft ... that is the sound of "The Great Australian Dream" being deflated by the "Great Australian Coalition of (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)s"

The only thing...THE ONLY THING that the coalition has any chance of bringing to Australia is despair.

 

"Treasurer Joe Hockey has offered two pieces of advice to solve Australia's housing affordability problem - build more homes and get a good job that pays well'

Does he mean every Australian should build more homes, while it is known every Australian wants a good job that pays well, however not all have mastered Joe's fantastic job of having people pay him with undisclosed cheques, then claim they didn't until a royal commission proves they a liar!

 

Seriously

LOL, the victim's lament..... not aware they make themselves the victim. Welcome to the 'left', because they've left the game and cry instead.

I started from nothing working with mentally unstable folk doing cleaning jobs at night to get started. The problem with poor people is they spend all their money. Hockey is 100% correct, the only thing he left out is that poor people live beyond their means and cannot save - the way to get started is to get a stable job that pays enough to start saving.

The way to make a job 'pay enough to start saving' is to stop spending, which means reducing your quality of life. Have a look at these 'poor' people who side with the left..... they have flat screen TV's, 3 cars, a couple of unhealthy habits (drink,drugs), mobile phones etc etc and don't look after what they have and instead trash it which makes them go out and spend more.

You lefties are hilarious, but its a bit sick to spread the disease of ignorant bad habits for political division

There will always be a top and bottom and middle of a property market, stop crying you cannot buy a house where you want it and instead learn how 'markets' work and get into it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Giving up is not a way to move forward.

 

How does someone get to buy a house? They have to save money for a decent deposit. To save money for a decent deposit requires a person to have a surplus after all necessities are paid for. If there is nothing left then there is no chance to save and therefore no chance to get a deposit.

Hockey's response is get a better paying job. And this shows the man's absolute stupidity. Not political stupidity, that's bad enough, but his sheer stupidity, deep stupidity, stupidity to the core.

In truth Hockey and the government have given up trying to govern. It's too hard. Abbott is locked in a permanent state of opposition, of politicking and not governing, hence the mess were are sliding into. This government is not just ideologically owned by the right it is also stupid, it is incompetent, it is incapable of understanding what it's job is. Were it not for the Murdoch press and the astounding ignorance of a fair section of the population, they would be out on their ears.

Hockey is the poster boy for the Abbott government. Look at his pronouncements. This is the nation's Treasurer. This man is stupid beyond belief. He is incapable of doing an important job. He needs to be sacked. They all need to be sacked.This government is stupid.

 

No, his answer was the 'first' step is to get a good paying stable job.

Sydney houses have been difficult to get into for at least 20 years, and just had a crazy rise in prices... its the most expensive part of the country probably. There is no simple answer, and starting from the first step is the most practical place for new home buyers to start.

The media and left beatup about perfectly accurate advice is a sad testament to the stupidity infecting Australia.

More and more younger generations do not realize how to live sparsely. As comfort levels increase each generation, the offspring expect to live a better quality of life AND be able to get ahead. LOL, the only way to 'save' is to sacrifice, and the idea they might have to live equal or worse then their parents did when they were kid doesn't even enter most <40 year olds minds.

Someone needs to slap em in the face and tell them wealth starts slow, but speeds up as it grows. Most people think 'at this rate I've never afford a house' and give up.... that is the loser attitude and explains why so many younger Australian's side with the left poiliticaly, oh and for DV, join unions HAHA welcome to the victim mentality, it will get you nowhere except backwards.

 

Hockey was spot on. The FIRST STEP to buying a home is to get a job that pays well. Actually that's not quite right, before you can get a good job you have to stop whining and get off your fat, lazy arse!
God! I am sick of listening to welfare bludgers whinging about people who have worked hard, made sacrifices and are now financialy comfortable or well off.

 

AT and AM,
so all the people stacking shelves at Woolies and Coles can get fukked, is that what you are saying?
Should they move 50ks out of Sydney or better straightaway into a sleepy country town?
Ever thought who is doing those jobs then (within Sydney) which don't pay well?
Who is wiping the remaining elite arses if you cannot provide affordable houses for them?
God you two are a very sick bunch....
Regards

 

The overriding thing that comes through about Hockey is that... he doesn't care. Read between the lines with him, and it's 'I'm alright, Jack'. And 'stuff you' directed at anyone else.

He reads the world and people through his prism of self-interest and smug entitlement. The most offensive treasurer in history.

'Out of touch' doesn't begin to tell it. He is so far removed as to make him nonsensical and pathetic and extraordinarily DUMB.

 

I absolutely agree with Hockey. If you want a good house then get a good job with a good income. Now we just have to sit back and wait for the Libs to provide us with the education, training and access to these good jobs with good incomes.

Should I hold my breath?

 

Someone commented you always know when Hockey writes his own script.

 

'Every time Joe Hockey opens his mouth, we get an explanation of how out of touch the government is'

Liberal MP Craig Laundy said that Joe was saying, if your Aunty has balls between her legs then your Aunty is your Uncle, and a Bank will loan him money at historically low interest rates.

 

Joe Hockey understands first home buyers depth of feeling, but insists LNP tossing them off the dole helps, along with highest possible power bills wiping out employment, but stops Coal bad mouthing the LNP causing Joe and mates to look for a job.

 

What gets my goat both here and in general is people that constantly walk around with their heads up their R's thinking they have all the answers. Yes it is very easy to say, get a good job, save your money, join the mortgage belt.

Now the great and wise Axialturban has pointed out that house prices have only gone crazy over the past 20 years, and he is right, that is about when negative gearing came in. Now negative gearing is one of the greatest failures of modern government, it relies on pushing up house prices. Now it's supporters rave on about it helping with the rental market, which is utter bull and a simple analysis of how it works will show any reasonable minded person that it is fill of it and is designed to give the wealthy a way to increase their wealth and decrease their tax burden, WHY THE HELL ELSE WOULD YOU DO IT. Oh they rant and rave about supplying rental properties and at low rents, but in actuality to make it worth while to negative gear you MUST SELL YOUR PROPERTY AT A PROFIT. So a whole lot of BS and lies goes around the market place and unscrupulous businesses, (investment companies, banks, financial advisers, accountants etc) force up house prices, making home ownership harder, forcing up rent until we have a situation where a small percentage have government funded properties while the rest are at the mercy of landlords who really have only one concern... profit.

Around 20 years ago, negative gearing was introduced and immediately house and property prices went through the roof and are still skyrocketing. Around the same time other things started to happen.

We started to become greedy, when I was young we would often see on TV or read in the paper about the gigantic law suits in the US, people would sue over anything, and yes, about 20 years ago when greed became our religion and profit became our God, we too joined the US in suing anyone we could for whatever we could get.

We started to see a major decline in business investment in Australia, people were now so hooked on the property market they were pulling all their money from businesses like Arnotts for example until they eventually were sold overseas. Investment in land and housing was going through the roof, home ownership was declining and house and land prices and rental costs were going through the roof, meanwhile our businesses were suffering, out tax income was declining, governments started selling assets to pay for votes by giving more people more tax breaks.

The only thing that negative gearing has done is to ....

• Artificially inflate house prices
• Drive up rental costs.
• Increase homelessness
• Create a society that cares more for money then people.
• Increase greed
• Reduce the money invested in Australian business.
• Decrease the governments revenue.
• Increase (relatively) taxes and decrease benefits to low income earners.

 

Easy to say, get a job.... GET A JOB..... Get a job .... Get a Job

All you have to do is get a good paying job, but the government is hell bent on making it harder and harder to get that job.

OK so how is that I hear axialturban and adultmale asking. Well besides negative gearing pushing down Australian industry, we have the government trying it's utmost best to totally destroy individual home ownership and rather all properties being owned by business, either Australian business or better still foreign business. See the less people that own a home, the more control the government have and as both labor and liberals have business in their pockets, (or is that business have the politicians in their pockets) they have better control of the people. People owning homes is a type of freedom that the government DO NOT WANT.

The other thing both business and the government do not want is FULL EMPLOYMENT. Again they loose control if the masses have money and a say in what happens to them, keep them poor and on welfare and dependent on the government keeps them under the governments control.

A hundred years ago a broad acre farmer would employ hundreds of workers over a year. Crop planting, weeding, harvesting, threshing etc. Today it is done usually by a contractor who brings in a large harvester and in a few hours does the work of a hundred workers.

This governments new incentive for small business to invest in new equipment etc will result in a further decrease in jobs. A lot of business still use older and Australian made equipment which is serviced here. New equipment will be more productive, usually using less workers, (this computerised lathe will do the work of ten older lathes and only needs one operator) (This tractor will allow you to do the same work with less people) etc.

This is the governments plan to get more people jobs.

• Crack down on the disabled, make sure all that can do some work are working or cut off their support.
• Make the older people, most of whom own homes and do not need to buy another work for a few more years while the young ones who don't have a home and need a job have to wait to get that "high paying job Joe is talking about".
• Crack down on those that don't want to work and are happy to live on the pittance they are paid.
• Give small business more tax breaks to increase there production without increasing staff.
• Take away support for local industry, making it easier for overseas industry to get a leg in.
• Do nothing to create jobs or find those genuinely looking for work.

 

Don't forget to blame the LNP for increasing the pension age, its not like the ALP didn't do it and plan to keep doing it either - but I get it would fit nicely into the hate propoganda of the left.

 

I'm not forgetting anyone. Yes I know labor put it up first, I don't think much of labor either. Never have, its you who says I am. Both are bad, its just libs under abbot is pathetic and bad for Australia. But I still would have voted more for the libs then I havr lab

 

Who knew? Politicians buy property in Canberra and then use their $270 allowance a night to pay off the mortgage on the place they've bought in Canberra!

Joe Hockey even 'rents' rooms in his home in Canberra to other politicians! Cha-ching!!

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-06-...-prompt-call-for-mp-rent-transparency/6536146


And oh, my, the Property Baron telling others to go get a good paying job. I guess we can't expect a man who owns so much property to have a scrap of human decency towards others. Cos owning so much property puts him in a league above mere mortals... who really need to go get better paying jobs... and tough luck, anyway. I hate this man. They should throw him in jail just for being such an offensive human being, let alone an appalling treasurer who speaks to the Australian people with contempt and belittling. Hate hate hate. For all his property portfolio... he represents 'little' Australia... a small minded self-obsessed turd.

http://news.domain.com.au/domain/re...ling-his-15-million-farm-20150610-ghkjee.html

 

Independent senator Nick Xenophon on Wednesday said if taxpayer-funded allowances were being used to help pay off the mortgages of Joe Hockey and his family, more transparency was merited.

Agreed but what he doing about it. Are we to believe none of his allowances go on his mortgage!

 

Tony Abbott says it was was not impossible for Joe and him to get a deposit for a first home using the $270 a night tax punter funded allowance to pay off their mortgage.

'Joe and I did it, with the assistance of Australian tax payers no doubt about that,' he told Alan Jones on Radio 2GB Thursday.

 

There is already a thread here about the polly rental allowance. Was interesting to see the ALP speak out against changes to the rental allowance so I bet both sides are guilty of taking advantage of loopholes.

In regards to the OP, I think I worked out why some people don't 'get it' and so project that Joe doesnt get it. Joe is talking to new home buyers about getting started in property - NOT buying a house in Sydney. Anyone with any experience in property will know you get a loan that you can easily afford to pay the interest and ignore the principal, and sell it for profit. This is the only way to move up in property for 90% of Australian's. The old system was buy a house, try and pay it off as fast as possible so when you retire you can own it and live on the pension - this model is no longer relevant and will soon be extinct. People need to get on with growing their own wealth, there is plenty of information online..... but I can understand how either;
1. people using the old model, or
2. people who set their heights too high for entering the property market,
... will think Joe is out of touch. But in reality he is most in touch, its just half the population (mostly the left) are too stupid to know enough to actually commentate on complex things like this.

{flamesuit}

 

Which bank?

 

You gotta to enter the market at the bottom (or wherever you can afford). As I said before, a lot of younger folk simply are too caught up in their own little circles of self gratification. People are happy to drop thousands on an overseas holiday and then whinge they'll never be able to save for a loan, its just they are not really trying hard enough.

They need to buy a dog box if its all they can afford, and then flick it for profit and move higher. The funny thing is wealth grows much faster once it starts to get bigger, so its not linear, it's more like exponential - money makes money, but a lot of poor folk think the struggle of getting started is what its going to stay like so they sabotage their potential by spending on 'feel good' things.......... no, the start is always the most uncomfortable but you gotta abandon the culture of fashion consumerism to build wealth. Perhaps they are not made for it though, as its tempting to spend when you can afford nearly whatever you like and they'll just end up back where they started.

 

Then again they could do a Joe Hockey and take thousands in undeclared donations from Transfeild Services, and then when spotted by ICAC you can give them the job of jailing refugees in another country!

 

Tony Abbott acknowledges even the furry cheque book carried by two of his daughters is not enough to get them into their first home.

 

Correction. NSW ICAC. Transfeild Services not make political donations, and this is enforced by its Director Peter Shepherd, who had forgotten he wrote out cheques for Joe, using Transfeild Services cheque book, prior to his being employed by Joe and paid for by the Punters.