Yeah...but there were far too many innocent people in Fallujah...although many were not so....INNOCENT. But still...even though the Marine withdraw from Fallujah was by design I STILL get the member here who will bring it up as if the U.S. Marines were getting their asses kicked! LOL!! Yeah....uhhhh....NO! AboveAlpha
And I grant that, but it is not like an Army organization, where you have entire Mechanized Divisions who move around primarily with their Bradleys or Strykers. They may have some of the vehicles, but they do not use them anywhere near the way the Army does (to the Army they form major strike units, in the Corps they are support vehicles) In the Marines, such assets are held by the Division, and are in a very limited number (not permanently attached to units, but issued as needed then returned to the "Division Pool"). And in nowhere near the quantity that the Army uses them. While the Army will have "Mechanized Divisions", the Corps only has 2 battalions per division, and they mostly just have the vehicles. Several times during operations my unit (2nd Battalion 2nd Marine Regiment) would have the 2nd Assault Amphibian Battalion show up. Generally it was to pick us up, cross a river or do a raid, then they would move off on their merry way to conduct a mission with another Battalion. We only belonged to each other during the course of the operation. To the Army, the crews and vehicle are permanent teams. To Marines, they are mostly seen as simply another form of taxi. Very different from the way the Army operates it's mechanized assets. And helicopters (and Ospreys) are treated in the exact same way. No "Air Assault Battalions", simply Marines trained to work with helicopters if somebody with stars determines that they need top conduct a mission that way. Actually, they are closer. Any fuel would have to come by ship. And Iraq is in the far North of the Gulf, a farther travel time and distance then UAE. One reason why the North Gulf states have been trying to increase pipeline capacity to UAE is to avoid any ships having to transit the Straight of Hormuz. And I can guarantee that the only other route to move oil (through Iran) would not even be considered.
Yes...I agree with you as far as the Army. I actually meant to say IRAN...not IRAQ...I don't know why I said Iraq as I was looking at Iran on my map as Iran has the Fuel and Reserves and is positioned exactly where we would need to stage incursions into Pakistan, Afghanistan and of course taking Iran would act as a BUFFER to any Russian Forces coming down East or West of the Caspian Sea. My Bad! LOL!!! AboveAlpha
Oh...just to add....Marine Corps. and Army Units will have Humvee's, Stryker's and Bradley's and other vehicles fitted with Direct Energy Weapons and the Army already has Humvee's equipped with MEB's....Microwave Emission Beams...and as we are told these are NON-LETHAL CROWD CONTROL versions. LINK....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvZCz_3Fqog AMAZING VIDEO!!! AboveAlpha
It would have to be a big area. Russia is 7 time zones wide. Are you really ready to take those chances when Russia has stealth ICBMs, all MIRVed?
I am NOT advocating such a U.S. Military action....what I was talking about is what the VERY REAL POSSIBILITY could be if another 9/11 occurred....GOD FORBID!!! If such a thing happened the U.S. Military would be sent to end the issue once and for all. Russia would be a concern of course but Russia would not attack American Forces as long as American Forces did not attack Russian Forces. A war between Russia and the U.S. is unthinkable. AboveAlpha
Sorry, the moment you said that, I tuned out everything you said. There is no such thing as a "stealth ICBM", it is impossible to make a "stealth ICBM", They are also not "all MIRVed". Only the SS-18 Mod 5 has MIRV capability. I honestly have to question if you even understand what MIRV really means. Myself, I am much more worried about the non-MIRV missiles then I am the MIRV ones.
Nonsense. Here's how you do it. You take an ordinary ICBM, slap on two coats of RAM, let dry, wet sand with find grit paper, and voila!
And you are aware that you can't hide the plume of it launching, are you not? Or that they are also tracked optically, RAM does not make them invisible. Nor that the shape is conducive to Stealth, right? "Stealth" does not mean "invisible". And it involved a hell of a lot more then just slapping on some RAM. Then you have the descending ICBM, which id glowing bright red hot like a meteor. There is no way you are going to ever hide that, the heat trail will scream to every sensor in range, no matter how "stealth" it is. Sorry, you are just showing how much you do not know about ICBMs. But trust me, this is my specialty. We have been detecting ICBM launches and tracking them for decades with no RADAR at all, all optically. http://www.nro.gov/foia/docs/foia-mda.pdf For detection of an ICBM launch, RADAR is almost worthless. It is done from space, by birds that look in infrared. You could have the "stealthiest" ICBM in the world, you are not going to hide it's launch plume. So thank you, nice try. Next time try researching how ICBMs are detected and tracked, eh?
Please let me know when you can offer something of interest to the conversation. At this point you are only showing even more that you do not have a clue what you are talking about.
So you evidently believe that ballistic missile early warning satellites use radar? OK, so why didn't all these orbital radar systems track said 777?
Well, Casper, read for yourself... ----------------- Thanks for challenging me. Now we both know what the "final solution" was!
Most of Russia's population and its industries and military assets are concentrated in the western part of the country, with a lot of empty space until you get to their port regions on the Pacific, so that 'big area' is not a concern; their infrastructure even in the 'developed' western region is decrepit and getting worse, and its non-existent nearly everywhere else; they aren't moving missiles around in that 'big area' with any dexterity or speed. You can't judge Russia by its heavily subsidized showplaces like Moscow and St. Petersburg; it's barely 2nd world everywhere else, and on its way to 3rd world very soon in most of the countryside. It's a lesson in corruption and its inevitable outcomes that I sincerely wish Washington, and Americans in general, would learn before we get to a point of no return.
Death was the Final Solution, but go ahead deny all the mountains of evidence, it is your choice whether to see the all facts or only those you believe support your ideas.
A full-scale war was unnecessary; precision strikes, assassinations, and an overall cunning and powerful intelligence agency would have been enough (and much less costly). But I'm speaking from hindsight, and Americans did want blood (interestingly, those who flew into the two towers wanted that too). As for Iraq, America invaded that country because 1) it was highly paranoid at the time, and 2) the same reason a husband who has trouble at work goes drinking and returns home to beat his wife. But unlike Afghanistan, every soldier who got blown up or decapitated in Iraq died for nothing.
IF it was, then WHY bring them first to the East and then, as they had to retreat, bring them back west?? Makes a lot of nonsense in my humble opinion. But let's leave it alone - the topic is "Get Out Of Afghanistan".
Here is a little enlightenment for you: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrTvZ0p07pE It seems to be sensitive information and is often interrupted and finally stopped at minute 14:40. Still, very informative stuff I had no idea about. I did know about the Wesley Clark interview, but then it continues with some real exciting news about PAKISTAN!
Uhhh, "Second World" and "Third World" have nothing at all to do with economic or social or industrial, or anything other then to which side a nation tied itself during the Cold War. If it was tied to NATO, it was "First World". If it was tied to the Warsaw Pact or China, it was "Second World". If it was neutral, it was "Third World". This is why for example Finland and Sweden are both "Third World", as is Switzerland. All of them remained neutral (for one reason or another) from the 2 big Cold War power blocks.
That should be obvious, to even an amateur. Rocket Plume (that blast of gas and particles) out the nozzle typically reaches over 2,000 degrees kelvin. That is over 3,000 degrees fahrenheit! Your jet engine exhaust is about 1/3 of that, at around 1,100 f. And if the IR sensors were set to detect that temperature range, they would be going off for every aircraft in the sky around the world. This should be a no-brainer.
That was the case in the 1950's. Now the meaning has changed, much the same way the word 'gay' is used has changed.
We never should have gotten involved over there; GW Bush really did America a huge favor putting troops in there.
If you think we don't know EXACTLY where that 777 is THINK AGAIN!!! Look into THIS. A 777 is equipped with a special Diagnostic Sensory System which will sent a Data Stream to a Boeing Satellite that allows Boeing to inform a customer when Non-Scheduled Maintenance needs to be done. This is a SERVICE an Airline must pay Boeing for and Malaysian Airlines DID NOT PAY FOR THIS SERVICE. The reason such a service is worth the Millions an Airline pays for it is it prevents AIRCRAFT DOWN TIME from occurring as for an Airline to make money it cannot afford to cancel flights due to an unknown maintenance issue occurring for it's aircraft. Even when this service is shut off which means the 777 is NOT sending a COMPLETE DATA STEAM DIAGNOSTIC to a Boeing Satellite....all 777's still sent a small diagnostic to this Boeing Satellite allowing Boeing to keep track of their aircraft's performance. A group hijacking a 777 could be capable of disconnecting the transponder and the black box BUT they would not be capable of disconnecting this internal Boeing Diagnostic Data Stream Signal and Boeing KNOWS that the 777 flew for 4 more hours after the transponder signal was lost. U.S. Space Command and other U.S. Intel. Groups KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THIS AIRCRAFT IS....as we have the Satellite Capability to follow and track ANYTHING....but this data is NOT being disclosed as to do so would allow China and Russia to know just how capable our detection methods are. AboveAlpha
