Get ready for out of control population growth!

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  1. Anders Hoveland

    Anders Hoveland Banned

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    Between 2000 and 2010, the Hispanic population grew by 15,171,776, accounting for 56 percent of the overall overall growth in the USA. There were 50,477,594 Hispanics as of April 1, 2010. The 10-year growth rate for Hispanics was 43 percent, compared to less than 5 percent for non-Hispanics.

    There are 17,130,891 Hispanic children, accounting for 23.1 percent of the people in the USA under 18 years of age. Between 2000 to 2010, the number of Hispanic children grew by 4.8 million. (by comparison, the number of non-Hispanic White children shrank by 4.3 million) The demographics of children today are generally a very accurate reflection of what the future population will be.

    The fertility rate for women of Hispanic origin was 97.5 live births per 1,000 women aged 15-44 years, which is 50 percent higher than the rate for non-Hispanic women. For women of Mexican origin the rate was 112.3 per 1,000. National Center for Health Statistics, most recent statistics collected in 1981 (for comparison, the average american female fertility rate in 1976 was only 29.6 ) This does not even take into account that hispanics have children at earlier ages. Just like compounding interest, even a slightly higher rate will cause huge differential effects after being compounded over time.

    In 2011, 37.6 percent of the population of California was hispanic. As of 2010, according to the state Department of Education, 51 percent of students (3.1 million) are Hispanic. In only a single generation, the hispanics will have gone to making up 37.6 percent to 51 percent. It certainly is not a trivial matter to so drastically alter California's population, considering there are already more people in the state than the entire country of Canada! (as of 2010, Canada has 34,108,752 people, California has 36,961,664 ).


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    Should the potential of overpopulation be a concern?
    http://india.indymedia.org/en/2005/01/210036.shtml

    What could this potentially mean for the future of America?
    http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/...th-sterilization-millennium-development-goals
     
  2. Anders Hoveland

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    I do not want the future ancestors of my ethnic relatives in America to be forced to get vasectomies because your people cannot restrain themselves now.

    The Hispanic peoples as a whole need to take some responsibility and stop churning out so many babies. That is half the cause of their poverty.


    The picture below might appear to be a crowd of people, but it is actually just one extended Latino family in Los Angeles. The grandmother and grandfather can be seen in the front middle of the picture:

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    How long can these people keep having so many babies at an early age before it causes serious problems for the rest of society?
     
  3. Clint Torres

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    Nice aint it.

    But reality is there is a huge population decline, and reduction of population growth in some USA States.

    When the USA continues to have less jobs and opportunities, the migrants will seek a life in another country. So I predict after 9 years the USA will see major decline in population.

    The real concer is: with failing public schools cost so much to have a more dumbed down population. That is the real issue. Trend is more stupid people because of the huge cost of public school education.
     
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    Dude - 687 posts in 7 days!!! Are you OK? I mean, did you break both legs or something? You in traction in the hospital? Oh - I get it - doin a little tweakin, huh?
     
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    "huge population decline"

    We were 266 million in 1980. In 2010 we got to 308 million. Much of the growth was Latino.

    That is an interesting reality you have there buuuuudy.
     
  6. Clint Torres

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    I know it is uniqe. I don't follow too much of the old trends. 30 million is small potatos.
     
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    The problem is stupid teachers.
     
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    Educators in the USA are not that stupid as they are lazy and maipulative. They work to make more money and less hours. And the stupid ones are the USA taxpayer who allows them to abuse their governmental powers over politicians and the taxpayer.

    We all fall sucker the USA public school system.

    And we will see more generations of privilaged educators, families of them.
     
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    You guys should wonder why a Dutch boy is so worried about matters outside his own little country -- partly doing so well because of its multi culture nature .
    Is there something you don't like about Hispanics , Anders ?
    I am sure that a lean , work hungry stimulus can lend help to a nation of otherwise selfish and greedy people who are now characterised as being obese and not the brightest ?
    Is it that you don't want Americans to have the chance to help fight their own demise ?
     
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    Abortion should be free on Demand on every Streetcorner in Every Village & Tiny Hamlet & City in every Turd World Country (especially Africa & the Middle East & Near East & Far East & Asia /Asia Pacific)
     
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    I am sure you believe this .
    But by the same token you must understand that my country would not want to see American males getting in the way of our continued development .
    We value the right sort of immigrants but not Americans .
    And the British always seem to get it right .
     
  12. Nate

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    It's going to be essential that a private fund for citizens is established with the opportunity to opt out of programs like social security and even medicare or else the prices are going to rise with less benefits as the system's quality tanks to take care of the increasing Hispanic population.
     
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    No , Nate , that is not the choice .
    Americans must decide to stop behaving selfishly and greedily -- not to spend money that does not really exist --- credit and debt .
    Then you need to rethink your priorities .
    Do you really need to try and be the world's moral crusader/terrorist nation ?
    Increasingly , the rest of the world is against you .
    No wonder that you cannot afford to be human , moral and compassionate ---because you are so busy trying to run an economy based on global aggression and domination.
    You spend money creating enemies .
    It is your financial down fall and now you are so hated that it is more than just Muslim extremists who will resist your bullying .
     
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    Dude, at that rate it is adding the population of a mega city like Los Angeles every 3 years to the United States.

    You don't have a good grasp of the numbers.
     
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    Is there a society you know that doesn't run on greed?

    Do you believe that the United States is the only country in the world that is labeled as greedy and selfish?

    Since you claim that the rest of the world is increasingly standing against the United States, who do you believe they will stand with instead? China is the only country that has a realistic chance at obtaining a high economic power and influence. If they were ever to achieve this, would you and the people you claim that stand against the United States switch over to supporting China? China, like the United States, runs on "greed."

    I believe those are relevant questions to the points you brought up when I was speaking exclusively about the main point of this topic.
     
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    Fortunately Bill Gates is on our side on this one...
     
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    As they say on your investment report: past history does not reflect future outcomes.

    This is true when you have may variables that affect population demographics. To look at just the population numbers, is the simple way.

    There is more to it than that.

    We can let the snowball effect go out of controle with examples.
     
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    None of any great importance -- unfortunately .
    But that is hardly the point .
    America is perceived as the ultimate in Greedy Materialistic States and from 1945 onwards -- in general terms . And that perception is accurate .
    Along with an insatiable desire to moralise , invade and conquer , these are your greatest negatives .
    An appalling profile .
    The fact that others have copied and emulated the worst example in recorded history , is neither an excuse or consolation .
    Forget Denial , please . It is unpleasant to see .
     
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    So if America and every other nation just leaves other nations alone to do whatever they want in their own borders everything will be ok?
     
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    Stig ,
    America has marched to war most recently to bend Afghanistan and Iraq to its will .
    But with little success , as we all know .
    Shouldn't they have first had a bit of practise by sealing the US - Mexico border if they don't want Hispanics on their territory ( dubious assertion but accepted for purposes of discussion .)
    If the Yanks can't seal their own borders , what chance of success abroad trying to achieve much harder tasks ?
    And then they moan and whine about Mexicans and Hispanics generally ruining their country -- as though it has not been ruined for a long time already .And all because they can't do a simple policing job !!!!!!
     
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    Or because the Republican Party is adept at manipulating their conservative voters. The business interests want access to cheap labor, and are determined to get it no matter what it takes.
     
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    You just make it up as you go along .
    After the second world war , International Business Giants collaborated-- both individuals and huge industrial power blocks .
    That is the basis of the popularly described Power Elite or New World Order etc etc .
    Do you seriously imagine in your barmy extreme right wing philosophy , that those Giants care five cents what happens in terms of bottom rung wages ?
    Are you crazed ?
    If wages go down , they benefit from increased margins .
    If wages are too high they benefit from increased commodity prices .
    Think big and put your glasses on .
     
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    A bit overbroad
    America is not ruined it may suck in some ways for lots of people but that’s a global thing most places have a long history of suck and even places you think are nice currently will probably suck again at some point in their future.
    Going after people for murder and damage of property had a little something to do with Afghanistan


    i dont thinck evry one wants to get rid of the cheap labour mexico and other nations south of mexico represent either

    Some few probably don’t want to keep immigrants out in general
     
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    Someone tell me why the living standards are so low in Mexico. Then convince me that the USA will not become more like Mexico if it takes in millions of Mexicans, not just ordinary Mexicans, but the Mexicans that Mexico does not want.
     
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    Might be ok if we take in Mexicans that want to work for a better life.

    We should also find a way to get rid of our own undesirables i have no skills if you love your nation you should want to purge me im feeling down right neglected hear
     

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