Give it up Trump supporters. Biden stole the election fair and square.

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  1. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The election is not officially called.

    Where do you come up with the term Winner?
     
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    He WON ! Therefore, WINNER.
     
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    Of course they were better, we were YOUNG then.
     
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    Pycckia Well-Known Member

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    My parents grew up during the depression and WWII. They thought the 50's were much better than their childhood
     
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    Pycckia Well-Known Member

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    And sometimes the past is better than the present. In the 50's the children grew up better off than their parents, economic inequality was much lower, the country was more socially cohesive, etc.

    People were happier.
     
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    Curious Always Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well, except for black people having separate areas for drinking water, riding on the bus, and eating in diners. Oh, and that part where women needed a man's permission to get a credit card. And the part where men were legally allowed to rape their wives.
     
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    Women were happier before Women's Lib.

    And I don't know that Back people are any happier now then they were then. They are still torching cities.
     
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    Nope. This is so wrong it's hilarious.

    Woman prefer to be able to vote and work the jobs they want to. So do black people.
     
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    Gdawg007 Well-Known Member

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    When do you think the election is officially called? Compare that to when Trump was declared the winner in 2016. Go on.
     
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    Social surveys report that women are less happy now than before Women's Lib

    Women are less happy nowadays despite 40 years of feminism, a new study claims.

    Despite having more opportunities than ever before, they have a lower sense of well-being and life satisfaction, it found.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1189894/Women-happy-years-ago-.html
     
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    From your own article:

    So they did a survey. They made no determinations on what's causing women to report less happiness. Perhaps women felt pressure to be less honest? Like Trump supporters when called by a pollster? You understand, right?

    I will amend my previous statement. Women and black people prefer to be free. Happiness and freedom aren't always hand in hand. Happiness you make for yourself, that's part of freedom. You have no proof that people being enslaved or denied rights is truly what they want. Sorry, but your so called victory here is just coincidence. And instead of thinking about the why and coming to a logical conclusion, you presume it's because they preferred it when someone like you was in control. How typical.
     
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    Ew.
     
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    LOL! The cognitive dissonance is strong in this one!
     
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    Not at all.

    YOu're implying that I'm holding contrary beliefs. I said clearly above that I amended my previous statement. Women today are reporting being less happy. Here are some reasons.

    They don't feel enough has changed for them despite women's lib.
    They are being more honest about their feelings thanks to women's lib.
    The world is asking more of all of us, including women, and they are more willing to report it than men

    None of those logical conclusions support your illogical one. Sorry that you didn't get the affirmation you were hoping for.
     
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    Yeah - how creepy do you have to believe to think that women enjoy rape, or needing a man's position to handle their own credit. Blech.
     
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    I don't think those count as logical conclusions. They are just alibis.

    It is all very easy to underdstand. Men and women are different. Men are stronger and can potentially father hundreds of children. Women are weaker and can give birth to far fewer. Women need men to provide for them while they are raising their children and so endup subservient to men. Evolution evolves them to be happy in that circumstance.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Then where is the official verdict? It will come on January 6. But you talk as if has already happened.
     
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    Pretty creepy. But I think the real problem is
    That's your opinion, nothing more. They are all supported logically based on the available information I have, which is allegedly, women are less happy.

    Bwahahahahaha. Thanks for the lesson in evolution, Darwin. I suggest you go give birth and come back to me on weakness.

    The reason men can father more children is because they don't get to choose when they procreate. Females in almost every species, makes that choice. They determine the survivors of the species, not males. So you owe your entire society and existence to women as it turns out. You should go thank them for not being weak and choosing to procreate with the wrong people...
     
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    The electors convening to cast their votes is a formality. We know how it will go in advance just like we have for many many years now. Technically, you are correct, but the notion that anything will change the outcome at that date is wishful thinking at best.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Even as late as 1973, as I recall, women had problems purchasing homes even when married. Childbearing was the major excuse for their problem. I recall one home sale I (1972) made where both the husband and wife were going to college and holding down jobs. His income came from delivering newspapers on a car route plus weekends loading ships and she worked in an office using her accounting knowledge. He later graduated a university with a degree in accounting. What happened to them soured me on using a particular lender. I was notified by the lender I had a job to do. I had to get the couple agree in writing not to have more children. This pissed me off. I carried the message and the couple signed an agreement not to have more children. Then the lender hit me again. I was to get the couple who owned a VW Beetle to get that car out of their loan as well. The parents were handed the ownership but the couple kept using the car. Finally the parents were to sign onto the loan documents. Which the parents ended up doing. The degree of my anguish was enormous. I tried to talk both out of the home I sold them and for the husband to use his VA loan. VA would not treat them like that. I got a lot of run around by the lender and the kids so loved the brand new home nothing I said deterred them. Later CA outlawed this and women who were not professionals could have their entire income counted just like the husbands could be counted. But the Feds were not who fixed it, it was California law got passed.
     
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    Voting is also just a formality. We do not know how it will go. There is a huge number of Americans who think Trump won and it will be verified.
    You don't get to decide this battle. Courts will make those decisions.
     
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    Incorrect. Voting is the only way to determine a president or any other elected official.

    What people think isn't relevant. Votes are. They are counted using transparent methodologies and no one was denied the ability to observe that process. No judge has said there is anything wrong with the current votes. The courts aren't supposed to decide elections, actually. Such a notion would horrify the original authors of the constitution, so if we are concerned about being originalists and whatnot, then you should plan to leave your so called originalists jurists on the court out of it.

    And yes, I do. So do you. It's called a vote.
     
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    Courts will decide this election. And no the election is not decided by the media, it is decided by the true vote count. And it is going to take the court to get the true vote count. Justices will of course be who votes next.
     
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    No, it won't. Courts don't count votes. The media calls an election based on statistics and data. The courts can't overturn math or reality. No investigation will find fraud on a scale that will matter. A handful of ballots are thrown out in every election. Never has it changed the outcome of a national, presidential election. My money is the Supreme Court will not be involved in this one. If you read the ruling from the 2000 election you will see why they were involved and it had nothing to do with voter fraud or the loser suing to change the outcome.
     
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    I try my best not to keep arguing with fools. This is not the first or second time in my life I have seen fraud take place and the media cooperate.

    Trump will win and the courts are the correct tools.
     

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