Give it up Trump supporters. Biden stole the election fair and square.

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  1. HockeyDad

    HockeyDad Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh I am sure you are right and that is why most developed countries and almost all of the EU have banned them... because they are reliable and not open to fraud.

    The Democrats have undermined the confidence in this election by adopting a method discarded by the civilized world and only used by the 3rd world... a method DESIGNED for stealing elections. It says much about the morality of the Party and their motto... "by any means necessary". If it means demolishing the confidence of the electorate in our voting system, then so be it. Remember now, over 30% of non-partisan normies believe this election was fraudulent. That has NEVER happened in our country's history.

    https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3666259
     
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    dagosa Well-Known Member

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    Wrong. Nearly every country in the world allows for some form of external voting.
    https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-ta...untries-around-the-world-run-their-elections/


    You need to show proof of voter fraud. Like Trump, you have NOTHING.
    As long as the gop controlled states are allowed to decentralize voting and use voter suppression, mail ballots will become MORE popular, not less.

    In case you didn’t know, voter fraud is a federal offense with severe penalties. Trump-insane-ites are totally delusional and just keep throwing sht against the wall.
     
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    Except for some gop controlled states, they do.
    In many countries, voter registration is mandatory. That would be a start. There is nothing wrong with having several ways to vote including by mail. Voter fraud is a federal offense. We live in a country where mail voting has enhanced voter participation, especially during a pandemic. We should be proud of it. we have never had any instances in modern history of wide spread voter fraud except by republicans. Why listen to them complain when they have no evidence ?
     
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    So I was right. It had absolutely no content at all. Just more out of context generic "orange man bad" crap.
     
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    dagosa Well-Known Member

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    Well, orange man IS bad. No one has been so incompetent, dishonest nor offensive to nearly everyone around him who doesn’t kiss his ring. Oh, he’s a traitor too.
     
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    Just the morning the Dept of Homeland Security, after investigating all foreign interference with out 2020 election, announced that this election was the most secure election in American history. That's coming from experts serving inside the Trump administration. This whole thing about our elections being fraudulent was started by Trump himself. He began saying it was going to be crooked months before election day. He was preparing his base to mistrust the election because he knew there was a good chance he would lose. I am saddened by Trump's lack of commitment to our Constitutional system as a whole. I am saddened by Trump's willingness to weaken or destroy American faith in our voting system itself. I am saddened that so many Americans take his word over all the evidence that his charges against the voting system aren't actually true. Trump is weakening America with his lies. That hurts us all.
     
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    HockeyDad Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Gee the deep state that worked diligently to get rid of Trump for 4 years (including ginning up the Russia hoax) is all in for the establishment candidate. Posting their opinion as if it counts for something is baffling to me. I think I will wait for the Supreme Court decision (just like Al Gore did).

    The amount of election meddling in this election by the MSM and Social Media giants is unprecedented.

    I hope to God Trump pulls this off. To me, by far the most important thing to do is bring social media to heel. They either be forced to support free speech norms or they be subject to lawsuits. I have had it with the fascists who control all the important channels of communication.


     
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    As to the bolded: Only media outlets that are favorable to Trump shall be allowed. Everything else shall be declared fascist. That's essentially what you are saying.
     
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    Election meddling by Republicans included decreasing the number of polls where voting could take place in some states, forcing those voting in person to have to wait longer periods of time in order to vote. It included removing official ballot drop boxes in some states (especially Texas) to decrease the number available & force voters to drive longer distances to drop off their ballots. It also included last minute changes in the times when late arriving mail ballots would be accepted as valid. In addition, a lot of effort was put into brainwashing voters into believing the opposition party (Democrats) were illegally fixing the election in their district so their votes wouldn't really count. To appear more convincing, Republicans introduced a myriad of court cases in a variety of states & voting districts within states, claiming voter fraud was being committed by Democrats. But they submitted no evidence in any of these cases demonstrating the truth of their charges. Trump lost the election, but won in his efforts to convince large numbers of voters that the system was crooked & couldn't be trusted. This nation has over 200 years of voting successes (at least for white voters), & a long history of voter confidence in that system. The 2020 election was the most secure against fraud of any ever, & was a pleasure to witness at work. But Trump did a massive disservice to the nation by spreading lies that softened the confidence of American voters in their own voting system. That was a disgraceful act. Trump's refusal to concede his loss to Biden is another. Trump continually demonstrates his total apathy toward America as a country & its Constitutional system. He has proven himself incompetent as our 45th President, & continues doing that by his total avoidance of doing anything whatsoever about the raging pandemic assaulting our people right now--killing between 1 & 2 thousand Americans daily. Presidents are supposed to protect our people. Trump ignores the whole pandemic--isn't even willing to talk about it; & refuses to attend meetings with his own doctors regarding it. I am amazed anyone can find anything about Trump worthy of their vote.
     
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    Investigations by government and election officials have found no evidence of widespread voter fraud.
     
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    “Deep state”, fallacy of the gullible.
     
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    Social media != media outlet

    Media outlets are publishers and are therefor liable for what they publish
    Social media is a platform and has immunity for what the creators publish.... they illegally are acting as publishers when they ban conservative creators whose opinions they disagree with.

    I don't give a damn about media outlets. I quit watching them years ago. I consume independent creators... you know the people that are getting censored.

    How old are you anyways? I am shocked that you did not know the difference between social media and media outlets. Social media includes youtube, twitter, facebook, etc... Media outlets would be Fox News, CNN, etc...
     
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    Trump is firing professional leadership in the Pentagon & our intelligence agencies, & replacing them with lackeys loyal to him personally rather than to the Constitution & our country. Trump is calling the 2020 election a sham, at the same time his own Dept of Homeland Security was calling it the "most secure election in American history." Trump lies constantly. Trump cares little to nothing about our country, its people or the Constitution. What he DOES care about is himself. He shares that attribute with all despots. And you support him. Wow.
     

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