God. Am imaginary friend for adults.

Lots of kids have imaginary friends but they grow out of it. Unfortunately lots don;t. They are called Christians, jews and Muslims .

Some of these big kids actually beleive their friend talks to them, others just accept that he is there and talks to him. Many beleive that their friend will do nice things for them if they ask nicely.

many of these big kids say that their imaginary friend will beat you up and turture you if you don't say he is their friend too. Many of them will beat you up and torture you themselves.

 

It's a fair point, but offensive I fear. As an Atheists I don't believe in imaginary friends either, but I think there are nicer ways to point that out. This is just too harsh and insulting

 

Beleivers kills us atheists in many places in the world. I was beaten at my school for declaring that there was no god back in the seventies. Indeed beleivers are obsessed with physical punishment.

Sod 'em

 

If you had an objective perception of the world, you would see that not all religions are equally bad or equally beneficial and that Atheism itself doesn't have a good track record. The age of "enlightenment" in France was a particularly brutal example of Atheists at the helm. North Korea, China and the old USSR ---all promoting Atheism were not places demonstrating tolerance and love for those of different beliefs.

Atheists aren't alone in being killed for their beliefs--All belief systems have been under persecution--and pro-Atheist governments have been guilty of horrible crimes against life and livelihood.

 

Revolutionary France had their own nature religion, North Korea preaches about heavens opening up and Kim il Sung as a god figure so they aren'Atheist.

marxism is a religion of its own- full of faith and abuse.

Ideologies of all sorts are the problem. Atheism is NOT beleiving in god it isn;t an ideology its just a lack of beleif.

 

I find it amusing many athiests disavow god and religion while practicing the same moral concepts dictated by religion. Altruism.

 

Bloviation. Your opinion and not fact. Irrelevant. Undeserving of a serious response.

 

Since it cant be proven to be true it's hard to address this except to say if it's true then whoever beat you was wrong, but that has nothing to do with God. Those were men (or boys) doing something on their own. I'd like to see evidence of Christians killing atheists. Your statemnt here just makes me think it's all fabrication.

 

Why? God and religion are not the source of altruism.

 

I'm open for edification. Prior to religion the source was what?

 

I think you have proven that Atheism simply can't exist then. Because the countries mentioned was promoted by the citizens and government as officially Atheistic. But I do agree that even they must worship something. Worshiping is simply in the dna eh?

 

Stucky said:

I'd like to see evidence of Christians killing atheists. Your statement here just makes me think it's all fabrication.

I actually said beleivers kill atheists I didn;t specify Christians and today I refer to Muslims for whom several countires execute people for professing atheism. These are Afghanistan, Iran, Maldives, Mauritania, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia and Sudan.

Of course in the past those professing Atheism have been executed for heresy by the Catholic church.


Nowadays Christians behave rather better than Muslims. The US still has 7 states that ban atheists from hlding public office (obviously they are from south of the Mason-Dixon line) whgich is pretty repulsive in itself.

 

Atheism doesn;t exist as a set of beleifs it is a description of an absence of beleif in a supernatural deity. There are many harmfull and oppressive beleifs- supernatural ones like islam or ideological ones like NAzism or Communism.

Todays Christians range from rather nice liberal moderates to nasty bigotted people with a big spread in between. I quite like many Episcopalians, methodists, Lutherans and Presbyterians. I really don;t like the Roman Catholic church and I despise evangelicals who call for gay people to be murdered.

However their beleif in an imaginary firned whether they are naughty or nice is just that...an illusion.

I don;t worship anyone or anything. I rather admire some people but I elevate no one or no thing to supernatural levels.

 

Yes, it's offensive, but sometimes the blunt truth is offensive, and sometimes, it's necessary. I like the straight up honesty about it. Because that's really what we're talking about here - imaginary friends. Why dress it up with bullpoo and give it an validity? It's imaginary freaking friends.

 

You don't follow US politics? The RW christian conservative does not show any hint of altruism.

 

Quote the era when religion did not exist, then perhaps we may be able to discuss this objectively. The concept that all virtue stems from the belief in a supernatural being (or beings), has not been empirically proven.

 

Show me where I stated my belief that virtue stems from religion. Your assumption betrays your objectivity.

 

You are behind the times in psychology.

Today we know from Freudian slips that our psyche is differentiated and we ourselves appeal at different times to diferent entities available to us from the Subconscious mind.

Our Conscience is one of personal friends with who we could and should consult before important decisions.
This entity can be nutured and enhanced in our thinking by appealing to it, especially when we ask, "What would Jesus do?"






In fact, our Conscince is the one friend who will help us avoid the evil influences of the other entities who so often giv us the wrong advise and urges:

1) Id = Lucifer
2) Libido = Satan
3) Ego = Mammon
4) Anima = Devil
5) Self = Beelzebub
6) Superego = False Prophet
7) Harmony = False shepherd
Conscience = Good Shepherd

 

The reality is not offensive. And yeah, god is an imaginery friend and many of this god believers if it was under other circunstances they would be considered as mad, and they should be receiving psichiatric treatment.

 

Even more imaginary and more friendly is the Unconscious mind inside our mind which contains the memories of our whole past as a species, and even other life experiences before we were born again into this generation.

Presently, our Conscious mind has no access into that Unconscious but the third eye that watches our behavior does have input into it.
Through dreams and sudden flashes of insight that appear to come from nowhere, the Unconscious mind sends its "angels," or messengers in the form of thougths that filter into our thinking unbidden.

Those moments usually advance mankind in some important way or another.

As an example:

In 1920, when Neils Bohr was getting on a bus and thinking intently only of his daughter, the entire structure of quantum mechanics came to him in a flash (as he describes it).
Where that flash or intelligence came from, and the timing of it, this is the Pure Intelligence I'm speaking about, (i.e.; intuition).

 

That is a value dictated by religion? LOL.

 

You are very opinionated and wrong inthat much scientific investigation of late supports that unseen "god' inside our head who voices many thoughts and influences many decisions we made.
That ancient of ancient friend has accumulated the Truth which is so indispensible to our ability to cope with Reality.

The most recent book, Subliminal, is very convincing evidence for a real tried and true friend who "has been here, has done that."



Subliminal: How Your Unconscious Mind Rules Your Behavior
Random House, Inc.
Book Description
Publication Date: April 24, 2012
Leonard Mlodinow, the best-selling author of The Drunkard’s Walk and coauthor of The Grand Design (with Stephen Hawking), gives us a startling and eye-opening examination of how the unconscious mind shapes our experience of the world and how, for instance, we often misperceive our relationships with family, friends, and business associates, misunderstand the reasons for our investment decisions, and misremember important events.

Your preference in politicians, the amount you tip your waiter—all judgments and perceptions reflect the workings of our mind on two levels: the conscious, of which we are aware, and the unconscious, which is hidden from us. The latter has long been the subject of speculation, but over the past two decades researchers have developed remarkable new tools for probing the hidden, or subliminal, workings of the mind. The result of this explosion of research is a new science of the unconscious and a sea change in our understanding of how the subliminal mind affects the way we live.

 

You do not believe religion dictates collective theory? "I am my brothers keeper" The laughs on you.

 

Oh, definitely for Christianity.

Matt 25:31-on reports the Final Judgement which based upon whether we have feed the hungry, clothed the naked, etc:

 

shall we count the ways this makes no sense?

1. Do you think religious people invented altruism?

Altruism:

: unselfish regard for or devotion to the welfare of others

: behavior by an animal that is not beneficial to or may be harmful to itself but that benefits others of its species

altruism was going on before there were people.

2. Just because religious people do something is no reason to shun it. I like Christmas. is that weird of funny or ironic?

3. Not believing in god has nothing to do with valuing the ethics and morality that make society work.

My ancestors were writing poetry and discussing morals back when yours were still poking at cave bears with sharp sticks, millenia from adopting a middle eastern sky god religion.

We are taught the same basic code of ethics and morality that you teach as religion, with the carrot and stick stuff about heaven and hell
which we, btw, think is very barbaric.

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shall we count the ways this makes no sense?

1. Do you think religious people invented altruism?

Altruism:

: unselfish regard for or devotion to the welfare of others

: behavior by an animal that is not beneficial to or may be harmful to itself but that benefits others of its species

altruism was going on before there were people.

2. Just because religious people do something is no reason to shun it. I like Christmas. is that weird of funny or ironic?

3. Not believing in god has nothing to do with valuing the ethics and morality that make society work.

My ancestors were writing poetry and discussing morals back when yours were still poking at cave bears with sharp sticks, millenia from adopting a middle eastern sky god religion.

We are taught the same basic code of ethics and morality that you teach as religion, with the carrot and stick stuff about heaven and hell
which we, btw, think is very barbaric.