God created sin - Change my mind

The bible says David was his god's begotten son (Psalm 2:7)
Where do you get that it wasn't wrong for Cain to murder his Brother. That's an absurdity. Did God curse Cain for the fun of it? [/QUOTE] Cainan was not punished for killing Abel, and was even protected from retribution by his god when he moved to Nod and lived happily ever after with a Nod girl (Genesis 4)

David compared his intimate relationship with Jonathon to the intimate relationships with his wives and other females and not with his platonic friendships with other men such as his father or brothers.

He was still a murderer and wasn't punished according to Mosaic law. Nor did he believe in Jesus either.

Genesis 4:23-24 says Noah's father was also protected from retribution by his god for killing a young bloke.

 

Lebanon, and then the cedar stakes could be burnt during winter and the remains eaten to celebrate Christmas. And why there are few cedar forests left. And perhaps they tied more than one person onto each cedar stake and didn't use crosses anyway. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cedars_of_God
And perhaps that's where the Romans got the wood to execute the 6000 slaves on the Appian Way too. https://spartacus-educational.com/ROMspartacus.htm

 

And since crucifixions normally took two to five days before death, Jesus was not medically dead after only six hours or so when Joseph and Nicodemus removed him from the execution scaffold and resuscitated him, given his heart was obviously still functioning.
And similarly, the thieving beggar Lazarus wasn't medically dead when he was entombed and why he walked out when the tomb was opened (John 11:1-44).
https://www.reviewofreligions.org/1...e-on-the-cross-a-cardiologists-perspective-2/
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...e-in-philippines-after-three-year-covid-pause

 

Then why bother giving opinions? If even you don't care about how our opinions are.
Or isn't having credibility something you care about either?

 

He did not. And it was written some 70 yrs after Jesus' crucifixion.

 

His religion may or may not be different.
I don't think it's that much different.
Both have the same creation of Adam and Eve. Many other areas are also similar.

Christians have a different religion than Abraham did also. But they still have the same original El, Elohim, Jehova, whatever it's name wants to be as the god.

 

Forever. Most will never change from the stories they have been told and now believe. No matter how wrong the stories may be.

 

Written by John the Apostle of Jesus.

 

You don't determine my credibility.

 

Yeah well, we all act under the same sun. But it doesn't justify everyone.

 

And where did Jesus live after he was resuscitated by Joseph and Nicodemus (John 19:39-40)?

 

What is your point?

 

So why do Moslems believe that Jesus was one of their prophets, whereas like his parents and family, Jews don't believe that he was a prophet as he claimed (Matt 13:57)?

 

That the ten commandments etc are just man made since they didn't apply to Abraham etal and their ancestors, and that sin is therefore just subjective and not objective and changes as society changes.

 

In my heart.

 

Salt Lake City. He lived with Brigham Young.

 

No. Have you studied the history of how the bible was written?

Revelation: AD 94-96
https://www.biblegateway.com/blog/2016/02/when-was-each-book-of-the-bible-written/

For it to be John the Apostle, he'd been in his 80s. Not very likely 2000 yrs ago for people to live that long.

 

Yes I do. And everyone else who reads your posts.

 

Is that an admission that Christians who's religion is different than the Jews. But still worship the same El, Elohim, Jehova, Allah?

Just like the Muslims do.
Afterall, those 3 Abrahamic religions are based on the same god figure.

 

They carried Cedar from Lebanon though Palestine to Jerusalem just to crucify a criminal? And the Romans carried Cedars from Lebanon 3,666 miles to the Appian Way when wood was at hand in Italy? And the wood was burned during the winter and remains eaten for Christmas?. Are you real?. Christmas was in the very distant future.
You mentioned Varus and - quelling a rebellion. Suiggest you read https://www.persee.fr/doc/rbph_0035-0818_1981_num_59_1_3318 pages 127/128. The rebellion was not against Rome and caused by another Roman.
You quoted Gamaliel - one man dying for the nation'. This had nothing to do with Varus who was probably long forgotten. The Gospel of John? - or whoever wrote it - was written long after the fall of 70CE. Gamalial was long before the fall.How would the writer actually know, after many years, if the event/words of Gamamliel actually happened. The Gospels make great play of supposed miracles, the Nativity stories are made up and contradict each other - and the trial and crucifixion stories are in a mess. .

 

Revelation was written by the Apostle John.

 

Then I determine yours and they're lies.

 

Even if they used cedar from the forests near Jerusalem, and cut down trees on the Appian Way, John 11:49-50 still says "What fools you are! Don't you realise that it is better for you to have one man die for the people, instead of having the whole nation destroyed" by the Romans. And I'm sure that the Jews well remembered the ~2000 crucifixions by Varus a few years before, and that the donkey riding "King of the Jews" (if he actually existed) was made a scape goat to avoid a similar episode. And even if the story is just fictional, that's the only plausible explanation for his execution by the Romans.
If he'd actually done anything naughty against Jewish law then they would have killed him themselves (Matt 26:3-4, Mark 14:1-2, Luke 22:1-2). And why would the Romans mock him as the "King of the Jews" if he had.
If the story has any credibility then he survived the crucifixion and was then resuscitated and lived happily ever after with the disciple he loved.
The nativity story is obviously pure fiction and written decades after Jesus' parents and any witnesses to his conception and birth had died.

 

What actual evidence do you have to support your claim? Or is that just wishful thinking.