God exists at the boundary of universe

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    God exists at the boundary of universe
    Unimaginable boundary of the universe is the proof of God


    Today, the logical analysis is not only sharp but also steady due to experimental verification of every concept. The receiving nature of the people is quite stable due to the scientific analysis. People are not fast in applying the theoretical tautology to arrive at hasty conclusions. In view of the stability of the phase of intelligence, the projection of the real unimaginable nature of God will not face the danger of non-existence. The scientist may not believe any miracle and may say that nothing is unimaginable. But the scientist must accept the unimaginable boundary of the universe.

    The scientist may argue like this:- “When the universe is imaginable made of imaginable cosmic energy as the fundamental cause, how can you say that the boundary of the universe is unimaginable? Just like the ocean is water, the boundary of the ocean must be also be the same water. Hence, the boundary of the imaginable universe must be also imaginable”. This type of argument is not acceptable if you analyze the subtle point of the boundary. When you reach the edge of the ocean and stand on it, you must find water on one side and the land, which is not water on the other side. The knowledge of both water and land is necessary to fix the boundary of the ocean. Land is not water. If land is also water, then the boundary of the ocean is not achieved. Similarly, when you reach the boundary of the imaginable universe, you must perceive the imaginable nature of the universe on one side and the unimaginable nature on the other side. If the unimaginable nature is also imaginable, then the boundary of imaginable nature is not achieved.

    When the unimaginable nature cannot be imagined by your intelligence, it means you have never reached the boundary of the imaginable universe. Unless you perceive both imaginable and unimaginable natures, the boundary of the imaginable nature is not achieved. Hence the boundary of the universe is always unimaginable from the other side. Some scientists say that the diameter of the universe is 200 billion light years.

    Another scientist laughed at this by asking that if he travels all this diameter and reach the compound wall of universe, what is present beyond such compound wall? One scientist says that the universe is constantly expanding! This is again a laughable concept since it finally means that you can never achieve the boundary of the universe. Hence, by all means the scientist has to accept the existence of the unimaginable entity, which is the other side of the boundary of the universe. It is not the boundary if the other side is not achieved. The scientist has stable and steady intelligence to realize the truth in this argument unlike a theoretical ancient tautologist. The unimaginable item, which is beyond the boundary of this imaginable universe is called as God.


    When this universe is projected from God, you will touch God on reaching the edge of the universe. You can never touch God since He is unimaginable. It means that you can never reach the boundary of this universe. Today this fundamental concept is revealed due to confidence on the stable and steady analytical faculty of real scientists. Ofcourse, foolish conservative scientists also exist even today in small number and this is inevitable at any time. Moreover, today there is lot of demand for the revelation of this basic concept in view of the violent terrorism that arose from the differences between the religions.
     
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    please indicate where these posts are coming from.
     
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    It is my own work...I give discourses and it is being recorded.

    You can find it here: http://www.mediafire.com/#undefined
     
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    why are you advertising here?
     
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    what? i did not understand?
     
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    well continuous cut and pasting of tracts from your website is kinda cheesey
     
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    I am posting my own work for a good purpose only to initiate discussion. However, i will take care of your concern...
     
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    If the universe has a set boundary, I would sooner describe what is beyond it simply as unknown, not as "unimaginable". Who cares what's imaginable, anyway? Beyond providing some basic starting point for hypothesis, experimentation and theory, it has nothing to do with objective reality. People can imagine - or fail to imagine - whatever they like. It doesn't change reality.
     
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    The boundary of the Universe need not be made of the same material (five elements). A metallic wheel may have a plastic ring around its edge. Therefore, the boundary of the Universe need not be made of the same imaginable material. The boundary is unimaginable means that the boundary is made of unimaginable material i.e., God. Even if you say that the diameter of the Universe is some billions of light years, is there a compound wall in the edge of the boundary? If there is such wall what is present beyond that wall? If you say that space is present beyond that wall, space is also a part of the Universe (one of the five elements). The theory of bending of the space around object proves that space is the most subtle energy. Therefore, the diameter of the Universe is infinite. The theory of constant expansion of Universe is also meaningless because expansion of any material requires the existence of space different from the material. When space or subtle energy is the basic material of the Universe, the word ‘expansion’ becomes ridiculous. The infinity of the Universe stands for the existence of unimaginable entity beyond the Universe existing from the boundary of Universe. Unless you accept the unimaginable region beyond the boundary of Universe, you cannot speak of the end of imaginable boundary of the Universe. All this discussion will clearly establish the existence of unimaginable region or God beyond the Universe.
     
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    because it is unimaginable to our brains does not mean it is god.
     
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    Like gabriel1 pointed out, you can't simply insist that what is beyond observation is God. All we're dealing with here is a present unknown, just as the space beyond the atmosphere was once unknown to our ancestors prior to telescopes and astronomy. It took quite a while to work out just what the sun and the other stars were, for instance; there was a time when their true nature could have been rightly called unimaginable, because people did not possess the information necessary to constructively employ their imaginations to come up with an accurate hypothesis.

    The universe is always a vast and wonderful thing to ponder, though. Is there space beyond space? Is there a "beyond" at all? All we are able to receive from the farthest reaches of the universe right now is radiation that apparently reflects the state of energy at the time of the Big Bang. It is otherwise the stuff of hypothesis and wonderment, but never would I label it or anything else we don't (yet) understand as "God".
     
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    This reasoning is so full of holes I don't even know where to begin. So I'll just go down the post.

    OK, so we start off by talking about science, while adhering to the pre-scientific notion of 5 elements (of which space was never one, unless you are using an entirely different system). So what 5 elements are you talking about?


    This is probably the only sensible thing you have posted.

    OK, first, this in no way follows from what you just said. Just because space is a subtle energy does not mean that there is an infinite amount of it. Absolutely non-sequitur. Second, this statement completely blows away your own point! If the diameter of the universe is infinite, then there is no "boundary", and your entire argument becomes complete nonsense.

    The expansion of the universe is an observed phenomenon. What's more, we know that it is space itself which is expanding, and not just matter dispersing, because galaxies (ALL of them) are moving away from us faster than the speed of light, something which matter cannot do when moving through space. ALSO, since we have defined space as subtle energy (perhaps in the form of superstrings), the boundary now also becomes imaginable: a true void which lacks this subtle energy. Therefore, there is NO unimaginable zone, within the universe or outside of it.
     
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    The stuff he's been posting reminds me of what you can hear here:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePpFIea6cE8

    I guess this type of thinking is all the rage in India.
     
  14. fifthofnovember

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    Yeah, this does sound very similar. A bunch of raving religious pseudo-science which, when analyzed, is meaningless and self-contradictory. Like someone once said, "It makes sense if you don't think about it".
     
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    The [materialistic] universe expands from every point in all directions. So every [real existing] point of the universe is always in the middle of the universe. Somehow we are traveling with our bodies always from the middle to the middle. There is no boundary - although the universe has a size and is not endless ... except maybe the boundary is in the middle or the middle is the boundary. Sounds this as if their could be some logic inside (¿and reality outside?) such thoughts?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9CnnYhFQHY
     

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