God is violence, not love

God is violence, not love
do you agree
Christ brought the war between Luther and the Pope
More important are peace, carelessness, security, indifference

 

RE: God is violence, not love
SUBTOPIC: "IS" ?
※→ Interaktive, et al,

Humanity characterizes God of Abraham (the Abrahamic Religions) as the one true deity and to be a supernatural entity. Man cannot know what the parameters of a supernatural entity are... It is beyond the comprehension of man. "Supernatural entities," by definition, operate outside of natural laws (as man understands it to be) and so cannot be investigated using scientific methods"

(COMMENT)

Do I agree? The Supreme Being created the possibility for "violence" and set the stage for humanity to exhibit "love." All the entities involved in either "violence or love" was predetermined by the Supreme Being. The paradox is: "You cannot go against the foreknowledge of God."

Because man cannot know the characteristics of the one true deity, so man has assigned attributes to this entity. Man, dependent on the perspective, most often considers the one true deity → on faith → to be The Supreme Being, The Ultimate Creator, and The First Cause. And in the fashion of "The" True Deity, the faithful of the Abrahamic Religions has assigned attributes to this One True Deity to be supported by capacities known collectively as the "God Powers." These capabilities are the → Three God Powers: Omnipotence: God is all-powerful • Omniscience: God is all-knowing • Omnipresence: God is all-together everywhere all the time. This creates a paradox concerning "free will." And it must be the case then, that every other entity is an agency, emissary, or another instrument of this One True Deity - The Supreme Being (The Ultimate Creator, and The First Cause).

It has been interpreted from Martin Luther (1483–1546) theology that human efforts, words, and works are no guarantees of entry through the gates of heaven. It is only by the "Grace of God" through the teachings of Christ (the savior) that entry through the celestial gate may be achieved. Luther was opposed to the merchandising (by Cardinals and Bishops) of "indulgences" as alternative means of spiritual growth and a pre-paid method of achieving forgiveness for entry to heaven by the forgiveness of all sins.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

Why don't you like Gita and Krishna? I don't remember India attacking anyone

 

Krishna is the most moral god

 

Joe Bidden is war, not love.

 

Better Biden Scholz Macron than Xi Putin

 

That's the news inside the US and most of the Anglo sphere, the news outside is more varied.

 

I watch YouTube in Ukraine
it is not diverse

 

RE: God is violence, not love
SUBTOPIC: Western and South Asian style of faith?
※→ Interaktive, et al,

I am unclear as to what is being addressed in the comment: "I don't remember India attacking anyone." (supra)

(COMMENT)

"Gita" (AKA: "Song of God") refers to written and published Hindu inspiration. It is not an entity (or Deity). The Gita, was written in verses and is generally attributed to Vyasa (AKA: Krishna) as the author.

My commentary was relative to the Western Abrahamic Religions and not a religion of Greater South Asia.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

If you mean Western or Central Ukraine, then I would expect
it to be a copy of the news in the mainstream media in the US.

It follows the theme of this thread because the Western view of God
and you gave as examples the Pope vs Martin Luther, is a God
of conflict, whereas the religion of Greater South Asia is not.

 

No, I don't agree.

Why do you think God is violence, not love?

1) How could Christ bring the war that Luther brought to the Pope in 1517 AD?

2) What makes you think Christ brought this war when Erasmus disagreed with Luther?

How so?

 

Christ brought the sword. He said so himself

More important are peace, carelessness, security, indifference
How so?

such a philosophy. Why not?

 

The sword is metaphorical - Christ never picked one up in his life.

And how do Christ's teachings of "love thy neighbor", "turn the other cheek" and forgiveness square with your claim that "God is violence, not love"?

That doesn't answer my question.

You didn't answer these questions, either:

1) How could Christ bring the war that Luther brought to the Pope in 1517 AD?

2) What makes you think Christ brought this war when Erasmus disagreed with Luther?[/QUOTE]

 

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you lie and manipulate

 

why do you need a god if no one obeys his commandments

 

Humans, homo sapiens are violent. Stop creating "God" to assign and deflect that behaviour to and blame for it.

If Christ did exist you have no clue what he actually believed. He was born long before any Pope. Any references to the Pope therefore would never have come from him. Your references to Christ in fact refer to concepts you read in the New Testament which are not the words of Christ but words written by ghost writers who claim they know what disciples or others told them what Christ is alleged to have stated. That is second hand and more likely many times removed from second hand heresay wording written by humans, specifically humans appointed by King Constantine to draft a New Testament for political reasons, specifically to avoid a civil war between Pagans and Christians by mixing certain Christian beliefs with Pagan ones and discarding others to create a hybrid set of rules and laws that reflected the political desires of Constantine not someone you never met or read first hand.

Do me a favour, study zoology, biology, group psychology, anthropology, and in particular homo sapiens.

Find out why they are pack animals and are the only species on the planet that indiscriminately kills. (note: Chimpanzees in isolated cases have been found to indiscriminately kill in fits of anger but so far its isolated not common in finding and predators practice killing with their young improve their skills and that can appear indiscriminate but is not).

 

I tested you, is what I did.

I picked apart your conflicted, fallacious and tortured excuse for Logic and then challenged you to reason/think independently and you failed, as I knew you would.

Now ask yourself, why would I know that?

 

What you see in God is a reflection of your self.

 

Lol you remind me of everything I am not-eloquence in specific distinct to the point words. I defer.

 

Au contraire, your signature is dead-on.

 

Was that comment meant to be ambiguous? Because it could be taken to mean (at least) two opposite things: that we project ourselves into our imaginary vision of God; or that we are a physical manifestation of the Reality of God.



Compare, how multiple interpretations are also possible, for the little chant, I just made up--

He IS the God of LIFE, because
LIFE, demands SACrifice.

 

It's whatever works for you.

Sacrifice...the word that has been deleted from the American lexicon.

 

Ghost dancing; or Dancing with Yourself.

 

In modern society, especially in progressive culture, there's a tendency to view the two as opposites, but actually it could be said the two go together.

Would you not use violence against those who hurt those you love?
If someone else greatly hurts someone you love and you do not feel anger, it's likely that you don't actually love them.

Think of the picture of a father having a gun in his house to protect his family.

Some would argue that is not really true. We could have a long discussion about that. Something tells me you would not appreciate that long complex discussion if we tried to have it. There would be a lot of history to understand.

 

thanks, i see myself as smart