"God made Trump" ad

I couldn’t really care how anyone view me that votes for a man that is cheering for the economy to crash while repeating the only good democrat is a dead one and saying he was sent from god.

But you do you

 

And yet, the Pilgrims did the same thing that they were persecuted for. They did not allow "freedom of religion" within their own colony. If you became a heretic or could not accept their religious doctrine, you were not allowed to stay. Thus, no similarities.

 

They all came over as a church or collection of churches, much like Russians and Ukrainians in California today. It is the way they travel when getting out of Dodge.
BTW, how do you know that? Were you there?

 

Uhm, history books ring a bell? The Puritans did not tolerate any other religion than following their Calvanist ways, much the same way that the Church of England follow their ways and why they were "persecuted" for their beliefs. The Puritans were known as separatists, a radical group at that time, who were not intended to reform the Church of England, but be seperate from it.

 

And separate they did. Whats your point? Equity? But, but, but, what about the others?

 

Although they escapted England for religious freedom, they never practiced it when they got here. Thus, you were quoting the myth of Plymoth Colony and the Puritans when you said the following: "The pilgrims came to America to escape religious prosecution and our later written constitution was heavy with biblical references. Scroll ahead 250 years and "educated" people are hating on them and calling them "nuts".
Our enemies regard our country as an interloper upsetting "the way it has always been", and want to go back to "the way it always was".
The biggest issue facing America today is failing and a representative government and becoming just another autocracy with a thin veneer of "rights" - AKA "the way it has always been".
BTW. Do we know how many people watched the video? 100 or 100,000, more or less?"

Although they came here because of religious persecution, they did not adhere to that principle once they got here. Religion in those days meant you either belonged to the Church of England, the Puritans, the Church of Sweden, Catholicism, etc. However, nothing in the US Constitution is referenced with Biblical verses, not one. The Constitution was influenced on three primary documents: the Magna Carta, The Enlightenment Philosophy, and the Iroquois Confederacy, a group of 6 nations forming together for the common good. Additionally, the Bible is neither conservative or liberal, especially the New Testament, the books written by the Apostle John, 27% of the New Testament alone, and the Epistles of Paul, which has the most books in the NT. But most of the common phrases in the preamble and in the Constitution, including the Bill of Rights, can be found in the various Enlightenment Documents of the 18th century. However, we have been fighting this for years, if not since long before the founding of the country in one way or the other. The Bible was used both in favor of slavery AND against slavery, especially in the Abolitionist era of the 19th century.

 

I didn't vote for him according to his morals. His morals are a private matter. He doesn't try to sell them to the nation as the way to be. It is the media that perpetuates his private life so as to undercut his capacity as a manager or President which capacity is substantial. I already have a God. Trump is not he. No one is. We are all about choosing a President, not a Messiah.

That said, I don't support Trump anymore. He's too divisive, demanding, and refuses to explain himself or his choices as a President. As in: if you don't put your trust in him, you suck and can go pound sand. That makes him divisive. A nation can't function in that atmosphere. It stirs loathing and resentment, which breeds contention which is counter productive to peace, civility, and understanding. Light should be shared for the sake of grace, not hoarded for the sake of domination which is Trumps style. There is also no way to gauge when he or any leader is wrong if trust is our only option. Trust is also a two way street. If Trump can't trust my judgment enough to explain his choices as President to me. Then how can I trust his judgment to choose wisely. It puts me in the dark.

And it's not like there are no examples of the sharing of trust, light and understanding. Former President Bill Clinton laid out issues like a cadaver, showing the parameters, the different ways of going about addressing the issue, pros and cons, why he chooses the way he does and so forth. President hopeful Ron DeSantis is similar. He explains, lays out both sides, and says why he chooses one way or the other. He involves people in the country's future. So Trump has no excuse for his guarded exclusivity. Trust me he says, believe me. Former President Ronald Reagan would say, trust but verify.

 

I don't know how to say it more clearly.

That ad is three years old, btw.

 

That's what the Liberals think.

And I agree, insofar as the private lives of candidates don't really matter in the political arena.

It's the Conservatives who place morality as an important element in the choice of candidates to represent them.

Except Trump thinks he's the messiah.

What does that tell you about his mental health?

We agree.

 

I kind of agree in general with you except that I don't think that conservatives complain so much about ones private morality/immorality, as much as they do about the promotion of immorality.

 

Who gives a crap when it was made. It encapsulates the zeitgeist of the MAGA mindset.

 

They complain that society promotes immorality, but overwhelmingly support one of the most depraved politicians in this country's history.