God OR Science

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  1. Iolo

    Iolo Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    He gave YOU one Margot, as I freely admit, and a good one too. You generalize, however, improperly. :)
     
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    Why thank you...
     
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    ......dont tell Rck Perry.
     
  4. Foolardi

    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What should one make of those,then,who Insist there is No God.
    That we aren't using our brains or they don't have much of one,
    themselves.Kind of an either/or reply should suffice.
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Take you then,for example.If you feel free to admit then why should
    God-fearing folk feel the need to hide theirs.Because it's now
    become fashionable to loathe the need for God.
     
  6. Margot

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    They have every right to their beliefs.

    You know.. sometimes people are angry or turn against God because something terrible has happened to them.. They say is God is ominisceint, how could he allow this child to be injured or killed etc.
     
  7. Foolardi

    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How does one go about having a Belief by denying a Belief.
    That is the Atheists argument.That they hold the Belief there is
    No God.That is a Belief tropism,meaning an oxymoron.
    One cannot hold a Belief by not having a belief.
     
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    I would ask you to prove beyond the shadow of a doubt that there is a God as you say. If you cannot then all of your arguments are for naught.
     
  9. Foolardi

    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You don't have to post then.
    If the thread is too dumb for you,then pass it bye.
     
  10. Foolardi

    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I cannot explain much in Life.I feel good knowing that a Creator exists
    who is the personification of Good.
    One can either go thru life and not have a Belief in a Supreme Being,
    or have one and feel safer.
     
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    Iolo Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You DO like to dramatise, don't you? I respect people who are honest about their beliefs: you are merely striking attitudes, I'm afraid. If there is a God he gave you a brain: use it!
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sounds very commanding.Quite the judgemental one now,aren't we.
    Am I to assume that God is the one responsible for handing out brains.
    How can that be if it is now popular to Deny there is a God.
     
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    Iolo Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You, child, say you believe God gave you a brain. Show some evidence for that belief!
     
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    So all you are doing is beating around the bush then. It would appear that you have no proof.
     
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    ...actually even God has memory lapses.
     
  16. Foolardi

    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I don't exactly have proof that I was born either.I mean,no video existed
    and I wasn't brought into this world with total recall.
    I also don't go thru life as if needing proof.Somtimes it's fair to assume
    a positive attitude and base things on Faith.
    Like,I have Faith that when I go to Church on Sunday,
    a schoolyard Bully ISN'T about to come up to me in front of my parents
    and other parishoners and pick a fight.
    As a classic " kiddie " example.Or that in Church an IRS Agent
    isn't going to serve me.Maybe outside church as happened in the
    movie - Bullitt -.
    But the Church is a safe sanctuary as it was meant to be.
    Such is a Belief in a Divine Creator.
    Don't forget where Manuel Noreiga went to escape his foe.
    Inside an Apostolic Nunicature or Mission of the Holy See.
    It doesn't take a hunchback to know these things.God
    saves and helps those who respect the Mission he established on this
    Earth.
     
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    Red is obviously mine.
     
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    Explain then how a Miracle works.And yes,there are documented
    examples of Miracles.The Catholic Church in Vatican city
    have centuries of volumns of studied and investigated miracles.
    In fact,most humans will witness a miracle of sorts in their lifetime.
    May be a person barely escaping a Tornado or survivng one or
    a tragic car or train accident.
    BTW ... The Prophets and the Apostles were the evidence you
    demand as to the authority and reason for God's presence.
     
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    Chance is not a miracle.
     
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    On;ly a religious fanatic believe in miracles...they dont happen, and never have happened. Crazy RC zealots are the people who experience these things and they are NUTS.
     
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    Funny you should mention chance.
    How many Scientific facts were discovered via just that ... Chance.
    Like the discovery of Orange mold and penicillin.
    Now don't you feel kinda like a schmuck.
     
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    Can someone translate his dribble please?
     
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    Penicillin was discovered by mistake or chance when Alexander
    Fleming set a laboratory dish containing bacteria near an
    open window one night.Upon returning to the dish he discovered that
    some MOLD had blown in thru the window and contaminated the
    bacteria .... Eureka ... Penicillin.

    Now don't you feel the schlep.
     
  24. Panzerkampfwagen

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    Wrong. Penicillin had been known by then for quite a while.

    Fail.

    How that demonstrates a miracle I don't know.
     
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    So, it still seem that you are still going to beat around the bush. So can you answer just one question with a yes or no only and not some long explaination

    Do you have any proof that God actually does exist.
     

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