"GOP Operative Lashes out at Party, . . .

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  1. Phoebe Bump

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    LMAO. Why in the hell is (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) censored?

    My ex wife used that horrible flavor, summers eve on the beach. Lol.
     
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    Keep it classy Republicans
     
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    Trump is even starting to grate on some Republicans here in Georgia. More than a few have expressed they won't be supporting him in November unless he cleans up his act. Some have said they will work hard for the Republican down ticket, but not for Trump. They will be going to the polls in November so they can vote for the Republican down ticket, but for the Libertarian, Constitutional Party or Green Party candidate for president. Never for Clinton.

    But that may still put Georgia into play. A couple of months ago Trump lead Clinton by 9. That lead is down to 4 now with third party candidates getting 9% of the vote. I personally think if Clinton can unite and obtain the normal Democratic vote down here while those dissatisfied and never-Trump Republicans vote third party or stay home, Clinton could actually squeak out a win here. You heard that from me first.
     
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    Love your sig line, and I think I might do the same instead of none of the above
     
  6. perotista

    perotista Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I have too much respect for the office of the presidency and this nation to ever support or vote for either Trump or Clinton. Now Johnson is but one option, at least here in Georgia. We usually have the Constitutional Party, who is their nominee I haven't a clue and the Green Party on our ballot. Green Party has nominate Jill Stein who ran in 2012, the same as Johnson.

    By voting third party for the presidency you can still have a say in the down ticket offices. Staying home accomplishes nothing. But I suppose some people are only interested in voting for the presidency. Perhaps we can at least send a message to the two major parties if enough of us vote third party that we are sick and tired of them nominating bottom of the barrel dregs. We can get their attention, now if that does any good, who knows? But by getting their attention and voting third party, perhaps we can get Washington working again if the two major parties feels threatened. Just a thought.
     
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    Agreed. Beyond that, I will only vote for someone I support. I don't play lesser of two evils.
     
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    I've grown up seeing the system get pretty well sewn up. We're going to see lesser (of two evils if you want to bother going there) candidates from now on. Clinton is the system candidate, and Trump is the poster boy for the republicans disfunction.

    My whole approach is to look for inspirational leaders, not so much good or evil ones. The people will be what saves America if anything does. The belief in some all powerful leader really doing anything without popular support is a joke today, if it ever wasn't one.
     
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    Ha ha nice reference to salty dampness. Eve indeed very popular in the70,s if my memory serves me
     
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    Teach a man to fish...but don't buy that flavor for your wife. Lmao.
     
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    I agree do not stay home. Vote libertarian don,t turn Green but come out and vote.

    On the local level I split my ticket. Our Democrstic gov is a buffoon, an anus hole, and hates the death penalty but the last male GOP governor we had has been convicted again of corruption. So lucky this is not aGov year or Inwould have write in again

    Please vote your mind not gender or feelings. Even if. Mutt or Jeff win at least give them the lowest College margin sinceTricky Dicky Nixon and JFK.

    So if you are from Chicago or NewJersey -vote early -vote often----LOL
     
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    Georgia is near the top of my list of ripe fruit for Clinton to pick off the GOP tree in November. Obama lost Georgia in 2008 by 5.2 points and again in 2012 by 7.8 points - and he didn't even try to campaign there in 2012. Georgia was the second leanest GOP margin of 2012, after North Carolina. And yes, with deep Democratic connections in the state and enough disillusioned GOP voters who cannot force themselves to vote for Trump, I can also see Clinton carrying the Peach State. And Arizona, South Dakota, possibly Kansas, also Montana, Missouri, Mississippi, Texas and - hold your hats, Alaska. Hell, at the moment, UTAH is in play....
     
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    Clinton and Trump are both low-life garbage. Jill Stein for President.; she may not win but I'll be damned if I voting for those two putrid curs.
     
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    Lol...That ship sailed years ago.
     
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    I never do either. Voting for the lesser of two evils still leaves evil in the White House or whatever office they were running for. Voting for the least worst candidate still leaves a very bad winner.
     
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    LOL, I grew up under Eisenhower, I heard in the 60's that even the dead vote in Chicago. That's how JFK beat Nixon in Illinois. JFK won the Dead vote. At least they did under the original Mayor Daley. I pretty much agree with you.

    Down here until the 1990's the real election was held in the Democratic Primaries, the General election was just for show. At the state and local level, not necessarily presidential. It wasn't until 2002 that we elected our first Republican Governor since the civil war and that same year we elected our first Republican state legislature.
     
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    Georgia and Arizona, yes. Clinton has a real possibility of carrying those states. There are quite a lot of old yellow dog Democrats who now vote Republican at the presidential level, but Democratic down ticket here that find it hard to swallow Trump. In Arizona word is that 300,000 newly registered Hispanics could swing that state to Clinton also.

    I think the rest are early season pipe dreams though. Although in Mississippi a month ago a poll showed Trump beating Clinton there by just 3 points and tied with Trump when Johnson was thrown into the mix. But Mississippi will go Trump. A lot of the states that look close today will revert to their normal colors as time goes by and the election nears. But Georgia and Arizona, the seeds are sown for them turning blue. Missouri is another possibility, but Missouri is a tier down from Georgia and Arizona. But it is in play.

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    Georgia and Arizona, yes. Clinton has a real possibility of carrying those states. There are quite a lot of old yellow dog Democrats who now vote Republican at the presidential level, but Democratic down ticket here that find it hard to swallow Trump. In Arizona word is that 300,000 newly registered Hispanics could swing that state to Clinton also.

    I think the rest are early season pipe dreams though. Although in Mississippi a month ago a poll showed Trump beating Clinton there by just 3 points and tied with Trump when Johnson was thrown into the mix. But Mississippi will go Trump. A lot of the states that look close today will revert to their normal colors as time goes by and the election nears. But Georgia and Arizona, the seeds are sown for them turning blue. Missouri is another possibility, but Missouri is a tier down from Georgia and Arizona. But it is in play.
     
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    You want to send a message to the dems and the repubs then vote for Trump.
     
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    So you are going to vote to guarantee 1-4 more leftist on the supreme court meaning four years from now whose president and who holds congress won't matter a damn?
     
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    LOL, that is something those 40% of Republicans who voted for Trump should have thought about during the primaries. The only reason Clinton may end up as the next president is the Republican Party decided to nominated someone sure to lose to her, that has no idea what Republican ideals are, that is disliked more than Hillary herself by the majority of the electorate. Some one who trashed the Republican Party with his name calling and childish bullying tactics and threats. Someone who made the Republican Party his enemy, more so than the Democrats. Someone with no political experience, someone who has donated more to the Democrats than the GOP, someone who only turned Republican 3 years ago, someone who's life long political held views is to the left of Hillary. Oh he changed a few to run as a Republican, but only after he decided to run as a Republican.

    No, if Hillary wins, look in the mirror. It is your action, your decisions or 40% of Republicans decision to nominate Trump. Someone whom 70% of independents view very negatively, even more so that the baggage laden Hillary Clinton. In poll after poll, candidates like Kasich, Rubio, Carson were beating Clinton by double digits and winning independents by 20 points or more. Trump, he always lost to Clinton, but that is whom you nominated. Take responsibility for your actions. You nominated someone that even a lot of Republicans can't support let alone independents.

    Don't go lamenting on us now. Personally I could have supported any of the other 16 candidates over Hillary Clinton. A lot of Republicans down here in Georgia feel the same. You guys wanted to make a statement, you did. Now live with it. I have a feeling that statement you made gladly, willingly, will lead to a President Hillary Clinton, lost of the senate and maybe, the House. All thanks to you and others who willingly gave us a candidate none of us can support. Don't worry about us voting for Clinton, we can't stand her either. A lot of will stay home, the rest vote third party as you guys gave us a candidate we can't and will not support. Nominating supreme court justices, that wasn't important when you nominate Trump. You didn't care. Why now?

    No, if Hillary wins, look in the mirror, there is the reason she won. Don't go blaming the rest of us for a decision and action you took yourself.
     
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    Sorry didn't vote for trump during the primaries. Libertarians aren't conservatives either and won't win meanwhile Trump has at least offered up conservative judges for nomination Neither Hillary or Johnson have offered to do the same and Hillary never will..
     
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    Hopefully, Hillary will appoint SCOTUS judges that make Ruth Ginsburg look like a raging conservative,
     
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    Okay, fair enough. Let those Republicans look in the mirror. They are to blame, not us and I will include you in us. The SCOTUS vacancies is something they should have considered before they gave us Trump, not after. Now it is too late. This old Goldwater Conservative will never vote for Trump, neither will I ever never vote for Hillary. My vote is for Johnson, against Trump, against Hillary for sure, but more for Johnson who is more the fiscal conservative, more of a social liberal, more of a traditional conservative than a neo-conservative. More of a Republican than Trump will ever be.

    I am not alone.
     
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    I'd almost rather have a dedicated leftist than a pro-government moderate (like Garland) in the SCOTUS. At least the leftist will sometimes vote for the individual over the government. The moderate won't. Trump is a NYC liberal, just like Hillary. He's the only person on the ballot that is as untrustworthy as Clinton. I will vote for neither of them. I'm voting third party in protest.

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    All the early polls of Clinton vs. Trump were pretty much the same as the current polls--Hillary wins. Rubio or Kasich, and to a lesser extent Cruz had a good shot of beating her. Trump never did, except for a couple of weeks in May.
     
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    Another problem that I read, is that Trump is not even campaigning in the traditional 'battleground' states. He is way behind in fundraising, so he is spending more of his time in red southern states campaigning for donor support, than he is, actually campaigning for votes, so the dynamic described above spreads like a virus in an immune deficient body.

    Meanwhile Clinton is ready to unleash a ton of ads in the battleground.
     

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