GOP senators prepared to acknowledge quid pro quo, plan to argue it was legal

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    Which proves nothing in and of itself. The fact that has been viscously left out in this propaganda statement is that the prosecutor was known by all in the state department and in diplomatic circles to be a singular corrupt figure.
    . Trump after holding back the only available portable tank busting missiles for the first time since 2014 asked Ukraine for a favor to look into Biden. This was in 2019 the exact year that Biden became a front runner for the Democrats in the primaries.

    The facts show that the firing of the Prosecutor supposedly looking into Burisma was not a singular decision on the part of Biden's son.
    https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-...-checking-joe-biden-hunter-biden-and-ukraine/
    "Steven Pifer is a career foreign service officer who was ambassador to Ukraine under President Bill Clinton and deputy assistant secretary of state for European and Eurasian Affairs under President George W. Bush
    . Pifer told PolitiFact that "virtually everyone" he knew in the U.S. government and virtually all non-governmental experts on Ukraine "felt that Shokin was not doing his job and should be fired. As far as I can recall, they all concurred with the vice president telling Poroshenko that the U.S. government would not extend the $1 billion loan guarantee to Ukraine until Shokin was removed from office."

    Anders Åslund, a resident senior fellow at Atlantic Council, a think tank in Washington, agreed that criticism of Shokin was widespread

    However, Vitaliy Kasko, who had been Shokin’s deputy overseeing international cooperation before resigning in February 2016 citing corruption in the office, produced documents to Bloomberg that under Shokin, the investigation into Burisma had been dormant."
    "There was no pressure from anyone from the U.S. to close cases against Zlochevsky," Kasko told Bloomberg. "It was shelved by Ukrainian prosecutors in 2014 and through 2015."
     
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    Too bad that NOT a SINGLE one of the 45 GOP House members who were in that closed door investigation has come forward to substantiate those allegations about Schiff. All they have done is WHINE about Schiff's use of terminology and that is what every LOSING LAWYER does in a courtroom because the FACTS are against them so they thump the table about procedure instead.
     
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    Nope!

    They are only subject to House RULES on procedure which stipulate that you cannot introduce irrelevant witnesses or documents as a means to obfuscate the hearings.
     
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    No!

    The BUDGET ends at the end of September.

    Your BLOTUS has no right to violate the HOUSE Budget Rules.
     
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    But your BLOTUS WAS withholding "the funding without justifiable reasons" hence the inquiry into his VIOLATION of the Laws of the Land.
     
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    You talked about 3 different Presidents, which one are you talking about with the tax cuts? Under Obama my yearly raises were in the $0.10 to $0.25 cent per hour per year range. Under Trump, I haven't gotten less than $1.00 per hour per year, sorry but I'll keep 'em.
     
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    Sure, and the rest of the US is paying for it. The deficit increased by One Trillion and Trump said he would reduce it. Easy to do, you know.
     
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    Look back at the post above yours.
     
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    Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player
    That struts and frets his hour upon the stage
    And then is heard no more: it is a tale
    Told by idiots (Schiff, Nadler and Pelosi), full of sound and fury,
    Signifying nothing.

    Macbeth - William Shakespeare
     
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    The person Joe got fired is mad at him???

    Say it isnt so!

    Bwahahahaha
     
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    I prefer to fix my own country first. It's up to you to fix yours.
     
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    Gee, and here I was believing you thought the USA (under Trump) had butterflies exiting from its arse. Maybe I have that wrong. Okay, carry on.

    :)

    Anyway, maybe you can have a go at helping us 'fix' Australia. All views are welcome, even yours. Cheers.
     
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    The Democrats are losing their minds over the thought of the DOJ investigating the origins of the Mueller Investigation. The Russian collusion fizzled so they moved on to the Ukraine phone call. I see they're dredging up the bimbo payoffs. It's the next big topic.

    I'll pass, as I really don't care.
     
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    And who decides what is irrelevant?
     
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    Sounds way more like your BLOTUS than anyone else.
     
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    thanks for not responding to what I said.
     
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    Thank you for providing. I don't know how they can maintain order otherwise but this gives the Democrats the power to over rule the Republicans in this investigation. It's better than closed door sessions though. Reviewing: when will the hearings start/who is getting a subpoena etc.
     
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    If only we had the transcript.
     
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    He can hold them until the end of the fiscal year.

    Deal with it.
     
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    Thank you for understanding why a quid pro quo wasn't possible.
     

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