Gov. Ron DeSantis accuses President Biden of making pandemic worse with lax border security

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  1. AZ.

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    Since when did Biden care about laws of Congress. There, fixed it for ya.
     
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    You just don't get it, do you? It has nothing to do with that I want. I am simply against the government overreach. Why do you want the government micromanage everything? Why not let school districts decide on case by case bases? Some rural schools probably won't need them, while some hot-spot metro areas might feel that it is necessary. Why does the government have to decide for them?

    Lot of parents won't allow their kids go to schools which are banned from protecting their kids.

    I am against authoritarianism, and you are for it. That is the difference. What DeSantis is doing it totally unnecessary, and political. There is no outcry from parents demanding maskless schools, so why is he doing it. Very few parents demand it and even they do it for political reasons.

    What else do you want the government dictate? Ban dress codes?
     
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    So you are against government overreach, but you are for local governments telling you, you have to mask your kid for school?
    And when DeSantis tells the schools you can't make parents mask their kids, stopping them from mandating YOU, you think thats government overreach?

    I'm starting to get the picture.
     
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    Don't let parents decide. Let government decide.
     
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    I’ve had a distaste for illegals long before Trump ever thought about being president. I live in FL and can see the results first hand. Being against illegals should be normalized. It is destroying our country. There is no metric you can use that can prove they are beneficial. No country is as lax on illegals as us. Every person they rape. Every murder they cause. Every drug they transport or sell. Every human they traffic. None of it should occur if we prevented them from coming. All preventable. You check lately at the percentage of illegals in our prisons?
     
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    Yes.

    I said "Why not let school districts decide on case by case bases" Didn't comprehend what I said? Ok. What other rules should the schools be banned from enforcing? Dress codes?

    You are doing a good job proving you don't get it. That tends to be a problem with lost of people who need government micromanage everything. In the bigger picture you would naturally also prefer federal government micromanage things as opposed to allowing States and locals have a say in it.

    Not only is DeSantis imposing these bans, he is also threatening to cut funds to schools which do not submit to his demands.

    Maybe you would send your kids to a school knowing they are banned from taking protective action, but many parents have a problem with that and have voiced their concern and some districts have chosen to ignore his ban. Will they lose funding? Its possible, now that DeSantis has assumed the power of the purse to himself. Will it survive legal challenge? I doubt it.
     
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    I said let schools decide. With DeSantis, the government decides.

    Parents have no held votes on the issue? If they did, I'll bet many metro area parents would vote to have masks until the worst is over.

    If the parents were given the choice, it should not be to choose their kid be the spreader, but to have the option to have your kid do it remotely in order to keep them away from the maskless spreaders. With these government rules, everyone is mandated to go and be exposed.
     
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    So you're ok with school boards demanding you mask up your kids or they can't come to school, but you don't see the need for government to micromanage your life?
    So you think a school board making you mask you kid or else, isn't government micromanaging your life, but DeSantis forcing them to allow you to make your own decision for your own family is micromanaging your life?

    Thats about the most open hypocritical statement I have seen to date.
     
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    Kids don’t belong to the government, teachers, or teachers unions. DeSantis gives parents the choice and you have a problem with that.
     
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    Actually what I just said would be a great idea.

    Let the parents choose by voting school by school. If majority want the kids to wear masks, then it should be enforced, and if majority do not want them then they can go without masks, and some kids could study remotely if their parents are concerned about their well being.

    So that would take the government overreach out of the equation, and it would allow democracy to decide (the American way), and concerned parents would have an option to protect their kids.

    Who could possibly oppose that (other than DeSantis).

    Yes, just say no to government micromanagement, especially when they threaten you by denying to spend your money for the things you paid them to spend it on. They ought to impeach that SOB. What shall we call him? How about Mini-Mussolini?
     
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    Every school board in Florida. If they were concerned with your input, they would have asked by now.
     
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    The U.S. Department of Homeland Security’s Border Patrol allowed 61,312 illegal immigrants to walk out of their stations in February, March, and April. The number is a staggering increase from the 18 people who were let go during former President Donald Trump’s final full month in office, when the number of families showing up at the border was one-tenth of what it is at present. (Historically, though, more people attempt to migrate to the U.S. in the springtime than in the winter or summer months.)

    The releases of adults and families do not include the tens of thousands of unaccompanied children who are also being discharged by the Department of Health and Human Services.

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/more-than-61-000-released-border-biden

    A quarter of the illegal immigrants dropped off in one Texas town tested positive for the coronavirus, according to the man who runs the homeless shelter where Border Patrol agents are bringing the migrants they’re catching and releasing.

    “We can’t quarantine them,” he told commissioners. “Even though they test positive, they’re going to leave the next day. They’re going to get on the bus or the airplane, and they’re gone.” The first group that came through had 25% positivity test rate, he said.

    Those migrants are now likely spread out across the country, challenging the Biden administration’s insistence that its border policies aren’t a new vector for the disease. Harlingen is one of several cities deep in the Rio Grande Valley of Texas. All of them are experiencing the new migrant surge. They are grappling with people nabbed by agents and then released into their communities.


    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/mar/7/migrants-dropped-harlingen-texas-had-25-percent-co/

    It was not about dehumanizing, its about public safety. Trump stopped the flow of illegals into the country by contracting with Mexico to hold all applicants until approved for entry. Biden reversed that and now we have the highest illegal immigrant crossings in 20 years.

    For someone who dispises anti vaxers and people who don't wear mask claiming they are risking the lives of Americans, you seem to reverse course when it comes to infected illegals gaining access to cities all over America. Next you will be screaming when the infection rate spikes blaming Americans.
     
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    Funny I hear way different stories from folks that live in sanctuary states like Cali, and other border states like Texas, Arizona and
    New Mexico. I also here conflicting stories from border patrol officers within those sates.. Of course I often see poster like you that just totally refuse to EXPLAIN how covert entry is calculated or even given a best guess..

    I suppose realizing that there are now over twelve million (Best guess according to analyst, likely MORE) illegals reside in the U.S. and HOW they managed to get here without you or border agents catching them and taking count is just useless facts, right ;)

     
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    Woah, this totally sounds like an antivaxxer and Covid denier. And he shows total apathy towards people and their safety. That's sarcasm BTW. And, his message hasn't changed since the beginning.

    You have to wonder where the fools who HATE HIM, are getting their information from? Oh that's right. They watch CNN or MSNBC pundits who just smear and yell and scream about how terrible he is, but do they watch actual video of him speaking? Nope. Doubt it. Listen to him talk then listen to slime like Cuomo or Newsome twist and squirm trying to defend themselves or explain the **** storm they've unleashed in their states. Not even on the same level. You can see through the career politicians and their slime vs people who are genuine.

    Videos like this and interactions with the press like this is why Democrats are scared out of their MINDS, because there is only so much they can do to fool and swindle people. Eventually Desantis will be on stage next to Biden(doubtful) or Harris and BOY oh BOY, will it be a bloodbath, seeing them side by side.
     
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    You said all you need to:
    You're accepting "stories" and I'm quoting the Border patrol. People that "live in" those states have no more proof of illegals coming in that you and I do.
     
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    And YOUR NOT :) The difference in you and lays somewhere between common sense and unrealistic ;) Until you explain to the room HOW covert entry is monitored by assessment from opinion or patrol statistics is just a ad-lib comedic routine!
     
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    This is Biden today. Who can say he's still there?
     
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    The idiocy of the right is astounding.

    "MASKS AND VACCINES DON'T WORK!!!!"

    "BUT IT'S ALL THE DIRTY BROWN PEOPLE COMING IN WITHOUT MASKS OR VACCNIES!!"
     
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    Bill Clinton called illegals a scourge on the country and libs kissed his ring. Not not only that, when he and his boss left the WH dead broke people donated hundreds of millions to his foundation.
     
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    Once again, Bill Clinton called illegals a scourge on the country and the left cheered him.

    and this dehumanizing you speak of, you say worse about conservatives.
     
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    You wanted to overturn 2016.
     

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