Gov. Ron DeSantis accuses President Biden of making pandemic worse with lax border security

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  1. MJ Davies

    MJ Davies Well-Known Member

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    Do you mean he and his boss were left dead broke or left the WH broke? Is his boss Hillary?

    I wasn't paying attention to politics at that time but just read up on his role in all that back then. It's kind of weird what people will get behind but I know it was said he had a lot of appeal because people liked him. I don't know why that makes bad behavior acceptable but humans are strange.
     
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    The idiocy of the left is outstanding.

    masks and vaccines work except when we’re talking about the illegals who don’t wear masks or get vaccinated who then get shipped across the country by Biden unknown to the people who have to accept them. And I’m not even including all the liberals who have been caught violating their own mask and travel mandates, but you’ll vote for them again.

    I wish Joe Pesci was here so he could ask you if the laws of physics cease to exist based on someone’s immigration status?

    Whatever school you went to should refund your tuition.
     
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  3. US Conservative

    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Its the dems who are furious that their own minority groups aren't getting vaccinated, as illegals known to be unvaccinated are being summoned to the us...where they will tend to settle down in minority neighborhoods.

    They are also now supporting medical segregation in NYC.
     
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    Bill Clinton....

    Even if that were true, it's been 22 years.

    Did I hurt your feelings?
     
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  5. MJ Davies

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    I've seen this up close and personal. I lived in North Carolina for a number of years. The school district is HUGE in the Raleigh area. I don't know how many towns it encompasses but there is at least an hour or more between the farthest points. Everything is done at the district level so there is no "customizing" it. That doesn't sound too bad, right?

    Get this. Several decades ago they had a really, really bad snow storm. All the kids, staff and faculty were basically trapped in their respective schools. They had to bring in emergency supplies for them all to shelter-in-place until the roads could clear and crews could get them out. Since that time, they NEVER invested in snow removal equipment so they close all the schools based on a FORECAST of snow. It doesn't even have to snow. Just the weatherperson saying "snow" shuts it all down.

    Here's the craziest part. The District is so large that it can snow in one part and be sunny and bright in other parts of the District. So, these kids have to make up "snow days" they never should have had because it didn't snow in their area but because the "big boss" runs the District, all the schools get lumped together.

    So, if it's that crazy and chaotic and that's INTERNAL State government, I can't begin to imagine what it would be like for something like that to happen all over the country. It would be sheer madness.
     
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    The thing is that I don't believe Biden is actually shipping illegals into the country without masks or vaccines. It sounds like bullshit to me. And even assuming for a moment that Biden is doing exactly what you're saying (he almost certainly is not), the contribution of the migrants would be negligible at best.
    https://www.politifact.com/factchec...santis-effort-blame-covid-19-spread-migrants/

    I don't get the reference. But I wish Joe Pesci were here so he could explain to you when to use question marks.

    I wouldn't have much basis to complain. I'm doing fine at $300k/y. And it's only going to increase.
     
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    Wait, are your blinders that thick? 30% of the illegals are refusing the vaccine. Masks mean nothing because we just saw Biden sniffing a little girl while not wearing a mask. Border towns are complaining that Biden is releasing China virus positive and untested illegals into their communities before putting them on planes and buses to cities like yours.

    Where TF do you get your news, is it still Comedy Central or did you downgrade to CNN?

    Geez, and this from the self proclaimed highly educated and intellectual elite.

    Unbelievable, but not from you.
     
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    That might be partially due to xenophobia.

    Also, IIRC, I think they stopped testing at the border because they had no way to quarantine people that tested positive. Do you recall hearing anything about that?
     
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    You provided no citation for this statistic (for obvious reason) so I decided to look it up. What I found a New York Post article (just lol) indicating that "[r]oughly 30% of illegal immigrants housed in federal detention centers at the border have refused the coronavirus vaccine." Let me put it in a way that even you can understand. How do we know that the vaccination rate among the (likely non-existence) illegal immigrants Biden is busing in around the country is the same as the rate among illegal immigrants housed in federal detention centers at the border? Let's assume for a moment that statistic isn't bullshit. Are these the same illegal immigrants that Biden is allegedly busing across the country? Assuming Biden is doing that, is getting a vaccination a condition of being allowed in? After all, if Biden is supposedly floating vaccine mandates on citizens, is it hard to imagine he's forcing immigrants to get vaccinated before letting them in?

    Let's assume for a moment that we actually did see Biden sniffing a little girl. (I don't subscribe to whatever tabloid you've been reading.) Does that mean masks mean nothing?

    We need a rule. Whenever you say something, you need to provide a citation to back it up. I don't ask this of most posters. But most posters don't have your credibility problem.

    Let's assume for a moment border towns are complaining that Biden is releasing CHING CHONG CHONG virus into positive untested illegals into their communities. (I actually have little doubt that there are retards in border towns making this accusation. But with your credibility, the fact that you're saying it makes it less likely.) What evidence do they have to support that assertion? "I SEEN IT. I SEEN A BROWN MAN COUGHING ON THE STREETS. HE WAS AN ILLEGAL WITH THE CHING CHONG CHONG VIRUS!!!"

    I browse the CNN and Fox News websites.

    I never said I was elite. I just happen to have critical thinking skills.
     
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    DeSantis must be running for president in 2024. Trump will fix that.
     
  11. US Conservative

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    From recent dem internal polling regarding the mid terms, dems should be concerned either way.
     
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    One would think that DeSantis should be more concerned because we know Trump will fix that since it stands a good chance that he'll want to run again.
     
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    Both are on the same side and have their own similarities in how they are effective.

    They are also complementary and I wouldn't rule out them running on the same ticket.

    Recall its been just over 6 months with Bidem and it feels like an eternity.
     
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    That is an improvement.

    The Trump Trainwreck felt like an "eternity" after the 1st week.
     
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    Maybe to someone who thinks record minority and female employment, a roaring economy, geo political adversaries who don't want to fafo, and a secure border are bad things.

    I wouldn't know.
     
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    DeSantis wants to be president and so does Trump. There is no way you'll see Trump as a VP on a ticket.
     
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    There are valid criticisms for illegal immigration.

    These criticisms however, because of their source, are not. They are coming from folks who don't really care about any of the preventative measures that can be taken here at home regarding COVID-19. Many have actively fought against them. But suddenly illegal immigrants are a threat regarding COVID-19?

    COVID-19 is ALREADY HERE and governor's like Desantis have staked their reputations on placating those among us who don't want any official action that might be an inconvenience to be taken. So it boggles the mind when these same people then think they have the credibility and the standing to attack Biden over illegal immigrants who have COVID too.

    Like I said, there are legitimate criticisms when it comes to illegal immigrants. But this here is just pure naked hypocrisy and political theater.
     
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    So hypocrisy about the hypocrisy? You literally could reverse your argument and reach the same result. The whole damn point is people are tired of this lefty administration saying DO AS I SAY, NOT AS I DO. If you really are so concerned that you shut down the worlds best economy for almost a year, then why in the hell would you allow untested and unvaxxed in the country. Why not have the same procedures we do with legal immigration? Why attack others when your supporting foreign covid to flow in unchecked? Inquiring minds want to know. The funny thing is though that the left is about to face the very thing they weaponized. They told us it was Trumps fault covid spread, they told us the deaths were on Trumps watch, well today Covid is spreading like wild fire, deaths are shooting up and what is left doing to fight it...Nothing!!! They will be judged by the very covid politics they started.
     
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    "They" didn't tell you anything, because "They" is not one source. If I went by your logic, I could say that "they"(as in, the right) don't trust vaccines because they think the government put tiny microchips in them to track you. Even though the "they" in this situation is just a tiny tiny percentage of people. Stop talking like your opponents are all a collective.

    Trump does have some responsibility in deaths and spread because of how much he downplayed everything last year out of fear of angering his base and looking weak, but it's impossible to quantify the extent. But even if he had taken it seriously from the start(or at all, since he never really did even after he had it himself), there was always going to be death and spread and an economic hit.

    And lets stop pretending like Democrats shut down the entire country's economy for a year. That's absurd nonsense. Republicans controlled the Senate and the White House and quite a few state governments.

    And lets also stop pretending like "the left", who in this case I can only assume you mean the Biden administration, isn't doing anything. They have been pushing vaccinations, mask wearing, and social distancing the entire time. These are the very best tools in the arsenal to fight COVID that exist. It has been folks from the right who have fought tooth and nail against these things, since many politicians on that side of the aisle stake their reputations on being anti-science and pro-Trump. Despite taking the vaccine themselves of course. Luckily, here too, it's not a case of "the right" being against these things, just some of them. There are many Republicans who aren't getting caught up in the theatrics and the hysteria of the anti-vaccine, anti-COVID precaution movement.

    Illegal immigrants who are COVID positive are a tiny drop in the bucket and are only being mentioned in a hypocritical attempt to make it seem like right-wing politicians actually do care about COVID when they really don't. As I said in my original post, there are certainly legitimate criticisms of illegal immigration and the Biden administration's handling of that issue, but this coming from the same people who can't be bothered to give a **** at any other time isn't one of them.
     
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    Walls only help when you want them to help. If you want to import future democrat voters they make no difference at all.
     
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    Trump would be the Presidential candidate.
     
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    Maybe De Santis is right.

    Perhaps Biden should be putting restrictions on travel to FL.
     
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    This is something we can both agree on.
     
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    White House Refuses to Endorse Vaccine Mandate for Migrants Released into U.S.

    President Joe Biden continues promoting coronavirus vaccine mandates for American citizens, but the White House still struggles to explain why that standard is not applied to migrants crossing the Southern border.

    White House press secretary Jen Psaki ignored a question Thursday asking if the administration wants to apply the same vaccine standards proposed for foreign visitors to migrants released into the United States.

    ...In McAllen, Texas, 7,000 migrants who were positive for the virus have been released into the city since February, including 1,500 people in the last seven days. McAllen declared a state of disaster in response to the crisis, opening up funding allowing them to tackle the crisis.

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...endorse-vaccine-mandate-migrants-released-us/
     
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    Fake News. Biden did nothing to protect us from the imported Delta Variant and he is importing variants wholesale with his open borders madness.

    The lying with this Fauci-funded man-made disease started on the first day, when they claimed it came out of the wet market and did not offer a risk of human to human transfer.

    “YES, HE WAS INFECTED IN THE LAB!” New E-Mails Confirm Origin of Chinese Lab Director’s Infection.

    "University of Massachusetts Professor Shan Lu, added he was “very concerned” about “lab people” getting infected with SARS-2:

    “I actually am very concerned for the possibility of SARS-2 infection by lab people. It is much more contagious than SARS-1. Now every lab is interested in get[ting] a vial of virus to do drug discovery. This can potentially [be] a big issue.”[/quote]
    And that too has proven to be true.

    DeSantis is absolutely right. Biden is a demented super-spreader with his reckless open border policies.

    DeSantis continues to do a masterful job despite Biden secretly spreading COVID infected illegals into unsuspecting communities.

    2% of FL is currently infected with COVID
    3% of WA is currently infected with COVID
    5% of CA is currently infected with COVID
    7% of MD is currently infected with COVID
    7% of VA is currently infected with COVID

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/worldwide-graphs/

    America's Governor! DeSantis will be FL's gift to the nation.
     
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