Gov't Engineered Famine on the Way?

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  1. MisLed

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    http://washingtonexaminer.com/examiner- ... CvMsz2PV2D

    Campaigning in Missouri Valley, Iowa, yesterday, President Obama announced yet another government spending program -- this time designed to inflate meat prices in Midwest swing states. "Today the Department of Agriculture announced that it will buy up to $100 million worth of pork products, $50 million worth of chicken, and $20 million worth of lamb and farm-raised catfish," Obama explained to reporters in front of a drought-stricken cornfield.

    "Prices are low, farmers and ranchers need help, so it makes sense," Obama explained. "It makes sense for farmers who get to sell more of their product, and it makes sense for taxpayers who will save money because we're getting food we would have bought anyway at a better price."

    None of this makes sense. In fact, Obama's move only harms American consumers while protecting a corrupt federal program.

    Thanks to the ethanol mandate, more than 40 percent of the nation's corn crop now goes into the production of a useless fuel that hardly anyone would buy if the government didn't require it. That's up from just 17 percent in 2005, before the mandate went into effect. Only 36 percent of the corn crop now goes for feed, and 24 percent goes for food.

    Not only is obama keeping food production low with ethanol mandates, but he's buying up what available food there is to skyrocket food prices at the supermarket.

    Either he has just thrown the election or intends to maintain power through the resulting food riots.
     
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    Global warming gonna cause millions to starve in Africa & Asia by 2050...
    :eekeyes:
    Global warming will cause starvation of millions in Africa and Asia by 2050
    Sunday 14th April, 2013 - Millions of people might face starvation by 2050 as a result of extreme temperature globally.
     
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    This is exactly what that other president, who presided over a long, torturously slow, protracted economic sickness (FDR) did during his reign. Failure begets failure.

    The government cannot spend it's way to health. It's already been tried and failed.
     
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    It actually makes some sense. It helps to put buying power back to the farmers. Think of the AAA during the Great Depression.
     
  5. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    A different form of famine is the trace mineral famine that if reversed for about one dollar per person per year would probably improve our immune systems and significantly decrease health care costs especially for aging citizens!

    http://www.healthwisdom.org/aidsminera.htm
     
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    Let's a lot out there we don't know about. Perhaps more research would help.
     
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    "Prices are low, farmers and ranchers need help, so it makes sense," Obama explained. "It makes sense for farmers who get to sell more of their product, and it makes sense for taxpayers who will save money because we're getting food we would have bought anyway at a better price."

    Does it make sense, Mr. Obama? There is a horrible disconnect here and Obama must be under the impression that the money that goes to prop up prices of pork, chicken and lamb
    ($170 million dollars in all, a pittance in Obama-Land) just drops out of the sky, assuming he did indeed use government money to give to farmers in Iowa, just before the election (just a coincidence, I'm sure).

    So, Obama thinks it makes "sense" to give millions to farmers and that "better price" we are getting (in theory only) won't come back to bite us in the form of generations of destructive debt?
    Liberal idiocy in action!
     
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    Can you elaborate more as to why you feel this move will harm American consumers?
     
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    Righties are so pathetic in their ignorance of how the things have worked.

    Righties, let me introduce you to the Farm Support program, a regular OVER 100 BILLION dollar program that, along with paying farmers to NOT grow crops (wealthy farm corporation welfare), buys milk, and agricultural products from dairies and ranches and farmers to create shortages, driving UP the prices to consumers with their OWN tax money, and otherwise enrich our so called "Self-reliant millionaires" with bushels of tax money year after year for doing nothing.

    Republicans as well as Democrats DEMAND these farm subsidy gravy trains be LARGER AND LARGER every time they need to be renewed, and add MORE AND MORE farm producers to the gravy train.

    Who then sell those products overseas and stick their middle fingers up at the American consumer, and complain about "welfare in the cities".
     
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    And of course the supermarkets don't have any hand in supply problems...

    They have such buying power that they can drive any supplier to the brink of financial colapse.
    They refuse to sell anything but perfect looking fruit and veg, meaning losses for the farmers are huge!
     
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    1. Iowa went Mittens in 2012.
    2. Economics is connection. If one industry starts to go down hill, other industries go downhill as well. Propping farmers up is a sound economic move. If they have buying power, then they can expand, and in the long run, lower food prices.
     
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    Unless we decide to combat climate change partly through heavy investment in desalination of ocean water so that we can produce food even in deserts. This would be great news for New Orleans and Florida because every cubic meter of water added to the water table of Jordan or Saudi ARabia, or Israel, or Morocco or Australia or California.....would NOT be on top of New Orleans or Florida!!!!


    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Tate4CentralNova/message/3580

    Martha Hall Findlay Visits Antigonish, N.S.
    ......
    Here is a summary of the number one issue that concerns me:
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    Proposal for the creation of a Nunavut Dollar....to address threat of rising ocean levels

    In my opinion it is going to cost trillions of dollars to do what needs to be done to protect towns like Truro, and Antigonish, Nova Scotia from the consequences of the cracking and sliding of a large part of the West Antarctic Ice Sheet and the land based Greenland Ice Pack into the ocean.

    The 143,000 acres of productive farmland along the Bay of Fundy that was reclaimed from the ocean by the use of dykes is even more vulnerable because the Fundy seems to have a funnelling effect on tidal water. In my part of Guysborough County, N. S. the difference between low tide and high tide can be as little as one meter. Along parts of the Fundy, the difference can be fifteen meters or more!

    The province of Alberta attempted to create its own provincial currency unit during The Great Depression but enormous pressure was exerted to ensure that their experiment in monetary policy was unsuccessful.
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alberta_Social_Credit_Party

    The province of Quebec seems to be in much better position to create its own provincial currency unit without facing the massive backlash from the financial community and federal government that Alberta experienced. The Territory of Nunavut may be in an even better position to take action than the Province of Quebec or Nova Scotia??!!

    Dr. James Hansen has stated that the last time that global temperatures rose by three degrees ocean levels rose by 25 meters over four centuries. Canada and the world are NOT yet prepared for ocean rise of one meter every twenty years.

    Somewhere between thirty million to one hundred million people in Bangladesh alone will become climate change refugees in the event of merely a one meter rise in ocean levels!

    ........
    This message posted to an Islamic group February 27, 2012, (that has since then been hidden or deleted), has the potential to utterly transform the relationship between the Islamic world and the western democratic nations!

    .facebook.com/pages/scientific-miracles-of-islam/136917379667127

    "scientific miracles of islam
    Prophet Mohamed (peace be upon him) spoke very carefully about a scientific fact realized by scientists few years ago. He said ( God will not held day of resurrection unless Arab land returns greens and rivers again ) [Narrated by Muslim.]

    scientifically, it was proved that one day the Arabian peninsula was full of greens and rivers as satellite photos confirm that there are buried rivers under the sand of Arab land , one of the great scientists of the American space agency (NASA) says that the taken photos for the desert had shown that one day this area was covered with rivers and lakes like Europe and one day in the future it will back again like the past."
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    In a way the production of food is an issue of national security!

    Japanese culture, affected greatly by the Samurai ethic, teaches that it is a terrible idea to become dependent on a potential enemy for your food.

    They are partly onto a principle that all nations need to take into consideration??!!!
     
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    and let's not forget the Dairy Buy Out Program under Reagan that put thousands of dairy farms out of business overnight. I cost me my business but yeah, only Democrats do that kind of stuff.
     
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    1. You are aware that in order to do that, they simply taxed the peasants to the point where they couldn't economically grow?
    2. Everyone needs to rely on someone for something, and there is power in that. But since there is a natural system of checks and balances in the economy, then we're good.
     
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    Good comments Kranes56!

    Would you tend to agree that at this time certain companies are becoming too powerful when it comes to the production of food?


    http://www.thefutureoffood.com/About.html

     
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    I'm sure it was just an accident, as the "washingtonexaminer" would never intentionally try to mislead its readers, but you make it sound as if these kind of Govt farm price supports are something Obama came up with. In fact it has been going on for many decades.
     
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    Granny says Uncle Ferd used to eat bugs when he was a lil' kid...
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    Insects Can Fill Gap in Diets, UN Says
    May 13, 2013 - A new study by the U.N. Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO) says insects could be used in the fight against hunger and to increase food security.
    See also:

    UN urges people to eat insects to fight world hunger
    13 May 2013 - Eating more insects could help fight world hunger, according to a new UN report.
     
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    So whatever happened to the "famine" this right wing propaganda source said was coming last year?

    The amount of bull(*)(*)(*)(*) the right wing propaganda media puts out is just astonishing. But even more flabbergasting to me is that there are so many gullible souls that just believe it.
     
  21. DennisTate

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    Have you seen the film The Future of Food or Food Inc or The World According to Monsanto?

    Whether we get a disaster next year or a decade or two in the future some serious errors are certainly being made and if we discuss all this in an intelligent manner.....we might just help government policy to improve???
     
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    Could be. But then throwing out bull(*)(*)(*)(*) out how Obama's policies were going to "skyrocket food prices" and to lead to food riots last year isn't an intelligent manner, IMO.
     
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    So Iriemon....what do you personally think of the film The Future of Food?

    Have you seen it yourself yet?

    http://www.thefutureoffood.com

    Do you personally think that President Obama should take action against GMO's?
     

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