Grassley: Burisma executive who allegedly paid Biden has audio recordings of conversations with Joe,

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  1. Andrew Jackson

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    How many time must it be said that the House Congressional committee is not even half done with the investigation yet?
     
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    Let them investigate away...
    Chase down every rabbit hole...
    Obviously, any concrete evidence of criminal behavior deserves to be fully prosecuted...
    I can wait to see how it plays out...
     
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    I don't think the reporter's question was dumb at all. After all, we already know that one of Hunter's Biden's business partners referred to the "Big Guy", as in "10% for the Big Guy", and now we have an FBI form where a reputable FBI informant claimed the owner of Burisma referred to Joe Biden, former Vice President, as the "Big Guy". In light of what we do know...Nice dodge, Joe Biden.
    There is no legitimate question that is dumb, btw. Only dumb answers.

    "The reporter's questions refer to an FBI human source form that allegedly claims oligarch Mykola Zlochevsky, the Ukrainian owner of Burisma, referred to the president as the "big guy" during a conversation years before the June 2020 date of the bureau's form".
    Biden says being asked about whether he is the 'big guy' is a 'dumb question' (msn.com)

    "In an email to Hunter, Jim and other partners on May 13, 2017, Gilliar outlined an equity breakdown in which 10% of the lucrative CEFC joint venture would be held by Hunter “for the big guy.”

    Plus, we also have this reference to the "Big Guy" So that makes THREE people who directly link the big guy reference to Joe Biden. What are the odds?

    "Another former associate of the first son, US Navy veteran Tony Bobulinski, publicly declared in October 2020 that “big guy” was a reference to President Biden — and alleged that Biden was aware of, and involved in, the planned CEFC deal."

    Hunter Biden's biz partner called Joe Biden the 'big guy' in panic over laptop (nypost.com)
     
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    Comer and the rest say they have the bank records that prove this isn't "malarkey".

    What's that saying that comes to mind? Oh yeah, follow the money.
     
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    NO PROOF (Whatsoever), Beyond Uncorroborated Hearsay, that Joe Biden was "The Big Guy"...
    No Proof...Period!
    That is a FACT!
     
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    Ongoing investigation Fact!
     
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    Breaking News story on the topic of this thread. This should be interesting. I guess if the Democrats think Michael Cohen's testimony was a smoking gun then, the Republicans, in turn, will be looking forward to hearing from Archer, who will be going to jail on fraud charges.

    Turncoat? Hunter Biden Associate Devon Archer 'In Talks' to Blow Whistle on $10 Million Bribe (msn.com)

    "Former business partner of Hunter Biden, Devon Archer, is reportedly in talks with the House Oversight Committee to testify about what he knows of the Biden family's business dealings in Russia and Ukraine.

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    Hunter Biden. Twitter/@TheWakeninq© Knewz
    "Archer, who was convicted of fraud, was a central figure in the dealings of the first family while Joe Biden held the position of Vice President of the United States. According to an anonymous source, he is receptive to speaking with the committee staff. Although a subpoena had been issued for Archer to appear on Friday for a deposition, he will negotiate a later appearance.

    This move comes as Archer's one-year prison sentence for defrauding an American Indian tribe was upheld last week by an appeals court. The Biden family was not involved in that scheme."
     
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    You mean the “audio recordings” that the right now admits may not exist ?
     
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    Good, but make sure you bring the receipts to the table.

    Having a convict sit at a table and make claims does not a fact make.
     
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    Yea of foreign leaders and discussing classified information as every conversation with the President was. Trump could claim the same things, classified is classified and it's all done so with the President's authority. I know you want it to be cut and dry but as the clinton prosecutor found, it's most certainly not per the law.
     
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    LOL not sure if they do or don't but sure the dude claims they do so for you that means bury it, not true lol. Shocker I tell you.
     
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    1. If they had audio recording they would already be out
    2. Audio recordings not made by law enforcement are not admissible in any court

    These accusations are falling apart with every new “revelation”. The right has bet the farm on these “informants” yet you dont know whats on the “recordings”, nor if it is actually Joe Biden on them.

    But hey, lets keep the lie alive. The lie is much more valuable when not tested
     
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    “Oh, you’ve got him this time…!”

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    Ongoing investigation! They may exist. It's a fact that the whistleblower mentioned that they do exist.
     
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    If they had the tapes they would be on live TV on a 24x7 loop on Fox News.

    If they had those tapes they would have used them in 2020 and Joe wouldn’t be in office

    Sadly, that is the state of our political discourse in america, where the politicians now creat false flag stories about the other without any evidence because they know the accusation carries more weight than the fact

    Our politicians divide the country because its good for THEM. We need better leaders
     
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    Someday you will understand that it is impossible to have an adult conversation with people in denial of facts. :angel:
     
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    Nobody said they have the tapes, or even that they exist. The FBI informant, who is supposed to be very reliable said there are 17 tapes that incriminate Joe and son, both taking five million dollar bribes. Take with you what you want from this. As I mentioned to earlier, this is an ongoing investigation.
    You dont have to remind me that our country needs better leaders after what they did to Donald Trump's presidency and what they are doing now to keep him from obtaining office again.
     
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    Chuck Grassley LITERALLY said “they have 17 tapes”….it wasnt until 2 days later he walked it back to “do you have the tapes…..
     
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    Proof please.

    I think Grassley said the CI allegedly said there were 17 tapes, and some from the committee admitted the tapes might not exist.

    Joe Biden Tapes: What We Know About Burisma, Hunter Audio Conversations (newsweek.com) You have to remember Grassley read the form.

    "In a Senate floor speech on Monday, Chuck Grassley said an FBI document that he had seen, detailing unverified claims of a confidential source, revealed that a Ukrainian gas company executive who allegedly bribed President Joe Biden and Hunter Biden made audio tapes of phone conversations with them."

    While he did not say that the FD-1023 form disclosed any of the supposed conversations between the president, his son and the Burisma official,
    the senior Republican senator for Iowa claimed it said there were 17 such recordings in the executive's possession.
     
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    Yeah, like his inauguration, the photos are fake. :)
     
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    you missed something, that says the allegations have not been proven
     
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    Where did I insist the allegations were proven? Oh that's right, I didn't.

    :bye::bye:
     
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    then what did you disagree with in my post?
     
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