Had a patients father ask me what religion I practice...

Had a patients father ask me what religion I practice a while back as he sat there and read his koran next to his son.

I told him I don't. I told him you don't need religion to figure out how to be a good person.

That was the end of any religious conversations during the length of his son's stay.

 

Had it been me, that would have opened up a very long discussion. In person, I love answers like that.

 

What significant reason did you have to post this?

Did the patient ever come back?

 

That almost sounds like a reasonable discussion between two reasonable people.

 

lol if all believers were trying to do was become good people there would be no point in belief. That's part of it but when Atheists say (*)(*)(*)(*) like this I don't know what to tell them. It's like they're intentionally misunderstanding it.

 

Not really. A father will under no circumstances say something what brings his children in danger. "Still-happy-that-someone-allows-him-to-pay-taxes" never found out what the father started to ask. Very unprofessional - even counterproductive. Slaveholder mentality.

http://youtu.be/eTmvrHoyMZ8

 

So tell me, how do atheists figure out how to become good people?

Tel me how JUST the belief in God or Gods equate to ... being a good person?

I would really like to see this laid out.

In fact, I would like to see how telling someone,"I don't need God to be a good person! (jerk)," is better than simply saying, "I am sorry, but I do not practice any religion." That is particularly so when you are a care giver.

Expain to me how this is both reasonable, rather than selfish (because the nurse/doctor's religious beliefs appear to be MORE important than the patients and the families) and how this equates to being a good person?

Because the first difference between the 'atheist' standard and teh Christian one I detect is importance of selflessness - i.e. that others needs, particular WHEN SERVING OTHERS, comes first.

 

I couldn't care less.

 

And that is why your are less moral than other people.

Morality is caring.

Let's hope this is not what atheists teach about morality?

 

That is a really assy thing to do. To talk down on someone and completely disrespect their beliefs.

It's one thing not to believe, it's another to completely disrespect someone else's beliefs.

I don't really believe either, but (*)(*)(*)(*) man ever hear of basic politeness? What an awful bedside manner.

 

Why should I act like other beliefs are on the par with Christianity? Truth is absolute, not relative. From that premise springs the unassailable fact that one religion really is right and the rest wrong. And there's nothing respectable about error.

 

When it comes to religion, there is no absolute truth. They are all a matter of opinion, all of them could be wrong.

Religious belief is opinion, not fact. Facts can be objectively proven as true, or false. Religion cannot.

 

Your logic fails you, my friend. If truth is absolute, that principle governs everything, including religion.

 

If you say so.

 

He's right....The point of religion is not to become a good person, it's because god is egotistical and wants lots of people worshiping him....

Look at it this way, the bible says that we should all try and be as good people as we can and never sin. But, it also says, that even if we live exactly like god wants us to, and live in complete peace with all humanity, god won't be happy until we bow down in awe of him and worship him. God's love is far from unconditional. If you don't worship him, he sends you to hell, no matter how good you are.

 

Not quite.

 

So you are denying the fact that god does not care how good a person is unless they worship him? According to the christian faither, worshiping god and Jesus is the ONLY way to get into heaven.

 

I've yet to meet a person who is GOOD through and through. But to answer your question he cares about the purity of our heart so yes he does care about how good we are but it's by the grace of God we are saved because of my first point.

 

My point still stands. It as happened according to the bible. Job was free of sin, for example. However, God did not care that job was free of sin, he only cared that he was faithful enough that god could let his enitre family die and let his entire life be ruined and Job would still worship him. It just seems strange to be that a god who is supposed to love all of his creations so much would be willing to allow people to suffer and die for no other reason than to prove a point. That is no love....

 

God is love and man disappoints. I'll take my chances.

 

All I am saying is that God's love is not unconditional, like it is called. If you don't bow down to him, it does not matter if you live the way he tells you to, he sends you to hell anyway.

 

That's your opinion, but it's false. Just because you choose to remain unsaved doesn't mean God doesn't still love you. You cannot love God and the world at the same time, and likewise if you don't allow Jesus Christ into your heart you cannot enter into the kingdom of heaven. This doesn't mean his love is conditional, it means he is purely good and unwashed sinners cannot coexist with him. He has nothing to do with your decision to reject him. You want to live your life in darkness, enjoy it, I hope it makes you happy.

 

by not lying to themselves. Atheists are not born, they are labeled by theist as the atheist may tell the theist, 'i dont believe in lying like you do' (it's how i got my label from you (biased) neutral)

following the rules of 'do unto others as you would have them do unto you' (an old confucius point of wisdom)

no you wouldnt

i dont practice religion and dont need YOUR style of belief in god. ie.... the jerk is who expects people to believe in their style of BS, when the best 'god' fearing type, 'will not lie'

being in the medical field is 'what'?

ie...going to school to learn how to save lives is better than being a stupid preacher, all day long!!!!!!!

the parent is bringing the kid to the doc because they themselves aint qualified to assist the child.

ah dahhh

what do you think a doctor does for a living? ie.... giving of self for the lives of others.


geeze..............

 

that be correct.

ie... the doc(s) will save more lives than any bible ever did. And the proof is in the population explosion of the last 200 years. Prior was theologically governed and then once alchemy and science evolved, that knowledge of life has improved and saves more lives than ever before.

 

it does.

much of the BS within religious teaching enable people to accept the concept of lying to themselves but then the liars will return to the doctors when they are about to die of an ailment