Has Anyone Else Read “Atlas Shrugged?”

I believe he was speaking (lying or grossly misinformed) about the growth in the economy (US) from 1878 thru 1882, claiming an absurd 49% growth, when in fact it was about 6.58%, which is a little better than average, but not great. Then when I asked what the growth percentages were each year, he pulled numbers from thin air, since it seems unique art. Google any year he mentions, and the percentage, and you get nothing back. Pure fiction. Then the cheesy bailout, in hopes no one would check it, of course, prefaced with an emoticon, as if we and not he is the dweeb.

Astonishing the lengths folks whose beliefs contradict all facts will go in making stuff up to support their delusion.

And a fun fact for the laissez-faire koolaid-drinking anti-New Deal folks, the actual (real; factual) growth from 1939 to 1953, New Deal heyday was ... 75.55% over the 5 year period. At no time before nor since has our economy grown so quickly.

 

Lets try those stats with US dollars real gdp. Each decade had an average growth of 5% a year or more. ANyway, I like arguing with you, but I grow bored of this subject. We both know a million different variables involved. Free trade internationally etc.. I will start up a thread in this section soon about how bad the minimum wage is. Look forward to seeing you there.

 

That is real dollars (real = inflation adjusted). Are you wishing nominal dollars? And if so, would that satisfy you or are you merely grasping for a bailout? If so, PM me and I'll pitch you underhand. Okie doke?

 

That comment helps illustrate how inaccurate you are. "Partisan hacks" GET PAID for what they do.

Sounds like you get your terms from Rush Limbaugh and then use them incorrectly.

 

I will look into this. When I find the chart of growth I had then I will be able to argue about the Guilded Age again, but alas you have asked for a source and I am too lazy to really look for it b/c I don't care that much. So for now, we will just say you are 100% right until I can come back with an argument. I have given up all "this time was better then this time arguments". I hereby cede them all, for now at least.

I started that minimum wage thread though, and look forward to seeing you there. My new thing is policies only, lets hack down socialism one policy at a time so it can't take credit for everything that happened in the world. I was hoping you would say social security, that is a horrible plan....Too tired for 40 hour work week tonight, but will address it later.

 

See you on the MW thread tomorrow. Gotta do dinner and family time. Have a good night.

 

Hilarious, coming from the guy who doesn't understand Keynesian economics, now run along an hump on your buddies leg.

 

What is it about simple arithmetic that so profoundly stumps you? You falsely claimed that there has never been a period before the New Deal area, that had the growth in GDP that equalled or even came close to the results of the New Deal economic policies. I provided you with the fact that in a five year period, GDP grew to the rate of 49%. Being the chicken (*)(*)(*)(*) that you are, you tried to move the goalposts, and then trying to break it down to a yearly comparison, because deep down, you knew you where caught in a lie.
Next, I provided you with website, ran by the government no less, that sourced every economic factor under the sun that has occurred since the creation of this country. Apparently you are not smart enough to navigate thru it, that's your problem not mine.

Next, you tried your limp wristed attempt of side tracking the issue, by claiming that worker conditions and child labor, and blah blah, some how factored into the raw data. Lame.

Dude, deal with it. You're are not as smart as you pretend to be, when some one that has a elementary understanding of economics, can google facts that debunk your lame ass Keynesian myth, that the New Deal had no equally, when it comes to growth in GDP.

 

Whats the most amusing factor in this whole thread, is economic illeterates like Jeff and Archie, sing praise to the New Deal, and how it saved the US economy from the clutches of the Great Depression, while the fact is that Keynesian economics didn’t end the Great Depression because full Keynesian economics was never implemented. Keynes, called for deficit-financed spending during downturns (and surpluses during times of plenty to pay off the debt). Data shows that congress and FDR, implemented half of the Keynesian theory, and real spending dramatically increased throughout the Great Depression. The problem is that they also drastically hiked up, already high tax rates so that, even as the economy collapsed again, their revenue soared, which runs counter to Keynesian economics.

And never mind the fact that real unemployment still hovered around 14.1%, seven years after this half assed Keynesian concocted New Deal went into affect.

 

You are just makin' $#!+ up again. No such event happened.

 

Umm, ok. Historical data says otherwise, but thanks for adding your own so intelligent input to the conversation.

 

No, of course it doesn't. You are just makin' $#!+ up.

Wish I could say the same....

 

Umm, yes it does. The facts have been laid out in this thread, and are available on any search engine.

But, since since you say so, it must be true. So now I agree with you.

Not really, kick rocks, and peddle stupid somewhere else.

 

As they say in Japan, "It's mirror time!"

His statement was correct. Yours was false.

No, you did not. You made a false claim, and provided no evidence whatever for it.

Mirror time. Your claim was a bald falsehood, and you have yet to provide any support for it. How on earth you imagine you can get away with such nonsense is beyond me.

Where does does that website support your claim? Which numbers? Which page?

<crickets>

What are you even talking about?

He proved his statement was correct and yours was bull$#!+. Deal with it.

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Umm no it doesn't.

And they prove you unambiguously wrong. Right.

Very wise.

Good advice. You should take it.

 

Ok, once again you've disproved absolutely nothing I've said. Try harder next time, or even try offering evidence to the contrary. Until you do, stop wasting space.

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Ok, once again you've disproved absolutely nothing I've said. Try harder next time, or even try offering evidence to the contrary. Until you do, stop wasting space.

 

Mirror. Seriously. It's time.

 

Ok, thanks for the fortunate cookie quote. I'll try to remember that next time I try to disprove somebody without offering any evidence, such as you have done in the four or five pointless post you've contributed.

Look me up when you have a clue.

 

Compared to your attributes of being a mindless partisan, as well as being dishonest? I think I'm doing well.

 

AYN RAND STATE - Tennessee.

http://www.salon.com/2013/04/11/tennessee_ayn_rands_vision_of_paradise_partner/

 

That article was just pathetic. The author can quote statistics, but nothing in between.

 

Less than 10% of the article consisted of statistics, which were, by the way, factual.

It's hard for conservatives to control the message when there are things like the truth, facts, and statistics getting in the way.

 

great story, in fact so good that some people still take way to seriously. still threaten by it after half a century. arguably the migration from California to texas brings her concepts to full fruition. same for the fountainhead, I have not read, we the living, that's all she wrote. like james dean only made three movies... before he join the 24 club.

 

I'm not a conservative, but I do live in Tennessee, so I know the place a bit better than some random Salon reporter who only surfed the net to find out about it.

 

AYN RAND is shallow. No one reads her stuff after HS when they stop contemplating their navels in teen aged agnst.

 

you are shallow missy, like the other day you were way off base about the eighty five year old whistleblower while foxnews was announcing trio of true American patriots, and you are way out of your league at this forum.

you can't even see when you are so ridiculous, for awhile there I thought you might even be and obot, but most of those people can at least fog up a mirror....

https://www.google.com/#hl=en&gs_rn...82,d.dmQ&fp=5c281d001b5f7c69&biw=1288&bih=615


wake up missy, you don't always have to be the dimmest bulb in the virtual chat room.