Has Anyone Else Read “Atlas Shrugged?”

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  1. scott e.

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    again, I was just poking a little fun, mostly at Obama. my own dad got his Ph. d at UT Austin, and worked for defense labs, and I have a nephew there now. as I said if you put yourself through school, any school, while working, you have my highest esteem and respect. I do think people take the whole rand thing a bit too seriously.

    I loved the story, and have read it many times, since junior high (because it was on the shelf at home) same with the fountainhead.

    .remember A S was written in '57...

    but they are just stories, although I do really believe that if the government bleeds the income earner too much, just to recklessly redistribute their hard work and earned treasure, that we will see more of that migration from california to texas, then to foreign land, then, eventually to galt's gulch, which I call Vermont.

    my apologies if I offended you, I can tell you are a good and decent hardworking person, and a great role model for us all. for that I sincerely thank you.

    and the movie (parts 1 and 2) are out, but I haven't seen the second one yet, the first one was great.
     
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    No offense taken, and I will definitely be seeing A S, part 2, for I enjoyed part 1.

    I salute your Father for having achieved his Ph.D. from UT. What he went through going through Orals would break most people.... Both the Masters and the Doctoral programs there are administered with great rigor, and the grad schools, as well as undergrad schools, are among the better ones in the nation... always have been. I regret never having taken the challenge to go to grad school, but I had to get my career going as soon as I could.

    When I graduated in the mid-Seventies, we faced enormous economic difficulties that this "Great Recession" we have had recently never presented. Imagine everything as bad as now, but, with stagnant wages, towering inflation, "wage and price" controls that controlled only wages, culminating in the goofy, liberal idiocy of the Jimmy Carter administration. Ask your Father... he'll tell you. It really was the worst of times, and not at all the best of them -- those came later when we elected Ronald Reagan, and even then, it took him two years to get things back on track, productive, and successful again....

    Thank you for you compliments. I don't get many of those, and I don't give many, either. These forums are like engaging in a sort of psychological "trench-warfare". We Americans are more deeply-divided now even than we were during the Vietnam War, and that is saying a LOT. We really hate each other now, and it isn't always easy to tell friend from foe. Success, and good health to you.
     
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    afrer he graduated from M.I.T. my folks got married three weeks to the day after pearl harbor. after the war he made good use of the gi bill. he was already connected to defense labs. he specifically chose UT Austin because of a specific professer of acoustics, I wish I could find his name. they lived in Austin for years, three of my brothers were born in Austin. dad was also director of research at southwest research, before going to continental can co. my grandparents lived in san Antonio for sixty years or so. as soon as I graduated from high school I moved to Houston which was booming in 1978, before I went to college. so I have history in texas, and love it very much.

    all the best to you my new forum friend, I look forward to your future posts. I am a semi professional birther (lol) trying to convince people that the same administration capable, and probably guilty of one scandal, could have another. needless to say, my beliefs make me somewhat of a lone wolf here, so any pleasant exchanges are welcome and appreciated. I think someday people will see that I am not a racist stupid monster just for asking questions about Obama's past, Benghazi, and now the use of the i.r.s. I was born and raised in and next to Chicago, so I know "the Chicago way", how pervasive it is, and how ugly it get's. cheers amigo.. :smile:
     
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    If you question anything about the Myth of President Messiah, you will swiftly come under attack by his "Praetorian Guard" here in this Forum.. They are characteristically animated and quite hateful... and they'll curse you for being the lowest form of life on the planet if you point out anything that's, uh, peculiar about his background. The internet is FULL of lists of all the strange inconsistencies, and weirdly rare phenomena, like having a Social Security number from Connecticut when he was neither born there, nor did he ever live there. On and on and on. If you get deeply into any of this, you can expect the hyperlib Obama-zealots here to kick your teeth down your throat, so be prepared.

    Right now, there's no upside into pursuing any of the controversial aspects to Obama's strange background. We're STUCK with this doctrinaire, socialist autocrat for four more years, unless something truly miraculous happens, like maybe a stray asteroid landing on top of the White House. But don't put too much hope in anything like that... miracles have been in damned short supply in these opening years of the 21st-Century, and there's no reason to think that anything is going to change for the better anytime soon....
     
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    this is always from memory: when I was a kid, a scout was trustworthy loyal helpful friendly courteous kind obedient cheerful thrifty brave clean and reverent.
    there are so many good kids in the world today. my grandpa started the radio school of the air, and devoted a big chunk of his life to the implementation of character education. he was also the first assistant secretary of the nea for jw crabtree, he wrote the check for their Washington d.c. headquarters.

    there are so many great and smart and wonderful kids, unfortunately we tend to hear about the bad ones.

    I can't give up when I sense corruption, doubly so when it comes from my home birth state, the land of Lincoln. Chicago is irony. it's a great city that has been choked by democrat mob rule for half a century. I will never give up, if I even have just a chance of making this country better, and a good life more accessible to everyone. I choose to do that through music, but there are so many other ways.

    we need to learn from the mistakes of the past and present. I just can't stand by while someone fleeces America, then lies about it.

    otherwise, what's the point of anything at all.

    that said, obedient was the one I was never so good at...:wink:
     
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    I share your sentiments and frustrations. But I see nothing but continued corruption, fraud, deception, decay, and death facing the United States, no matter what we on the Right think or do.

    Everything is against us, including this "president", the Supreme Court, and an entrenched hyperliberal, socialist bureaucracy, like the IRS that has been proven to have targeted us for "investigative" Gestapo-tactics.

    Who represents us, we who continue to contribute to this nation, pay the taxes, uphold the Constitution, and obey the letter of the rule of law? All we have is bunch of disorganized, self-interested RINO-"Republicans" on social-behavior crusades, who, frankly, have not been able to accomplish anything of substance or benefit. The United States is already mentally scattered and deranged. Soon, it will be functionally brain-dead... it's just a matter now of when the "twitching" will stop....
     
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    don't worry amigo, this country always has flashes of brilliance and the political pendulum swings both ways. don't forget 3/5th of our governors are conservative (republican). and most important/telling of all is the advent of citizen journalism, supported by the internet. there is a migration of hardworking Americas form california to texas for example. the more successful the state, the bigger the magnetic draw, people don't have to come from a different country to seek a better life.... which brings us full circle to the atlas shrugged idea.

    the American undercurrent is strong, the more radical the liberal march, the more intense it will be met with a conservative backbeat and counterpoint (in musician parlance)
    this country isn't only great because of who we are, but also in the way we survive, hence the true genius of our founding fathers and mothers.

    this is why I am starting the WashingtonAmerica party smack dab in the middle, the very vest of the two parties we have now). it will give we independents a perch, a common voice and perhaps most important of all, a new name, that represents the very idea of who we are, and for what we stand.

    I think this is where that T party should have initiated, instead they somehow the the democrats drive their narrative to the right. the T party was great in so many ways, but the mainstream media easily divided them, to the advantage of the left.

    i'll promise you this, I will never give up, I may sometimes have bouts of self doubt, but I will never stop trying to get back to the founders dream, not those dreams of one radical thinker or one self serving group.
     
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    Oh, there's plenty to worry about, and my old friends in Texas would be the first to tell you that. Since the Obama regime and the RINO's dreamed up this latest immigration "reform" scam, illegal Mexicans have been pouring over the border in numbers so great that nobody even has accurate estimates. They're emptying-out entire towns in Mexico to shove their way in here, so that when President Santa Claus hands out free citizenship to anybody with a pulse, they'll be able to get in on the gravy-train. Nobody is going to stop them, and instead, everybody is already queued up to give them unending welfare in return for their votes. I say again, we are almost dead where we stand. It's just a matter now of completely losing our minds, and our balance, and falling on our faces....
     
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    Look, I know this is pretty far out there and not everyone will agree with this, but Hitler was a pretty cool guy and violence is great if it's used against the right people.
     
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    you are right. as I said, my own dad was a UT grad, twice, and he always said, identify the problem first. at the end of the day if we have done everything we can, tried our very best, that's the best we can do. I believe this is the sentiment that allowed us to win WW 2.

    there are lot's of things to worry about, but there are so many of us working on them. even a forum like this is a wonderful thing, in a small way contributes to the essemce of improving our great country, sometimes I wish thinhs would move along a little faster, but i'm also awfully glad they move at all. remember that political pendulum swings both ways for us all, with 0bama scandals coming down the pike so many just about every day, even uninterested Americans are beginning to show a heightened state of situational awareness.
     

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