He Who Claims "God", Has A Moral Obligation To Produce Evidence.

Like I said... fanciful imagination...

 

No. Statistical reality. Or did you not believe the information given?

If not, give the figures instead of your foolish, irrational and fanciful imaginings.

Regards
DL

 

My concerns are not about statistics. My concerns are about Spirituality. Taking a billion people out of poverty does not necessarily mean that their lives will be spiritually rewarding. From a theistic point of view, the freedom of spirit is greater than all the wealth in the world.

 

Taking that many and improving their lives with water, medicine and education is showing that the spirituality and heart of mankind is as it should be in spite of the corrupted spirituality that religions are pumping out.

If you cannot see the good in what is reality in terms of our reducing poverty then I would suggest that it is your spirituality that needs a change.

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DL

 

Did you ever read the story about the 'widows mite'? Mark 12: 41 - 44 . Bearing that story in mind, I would challenge you to do as that widow did... then come back and brag about what has been done to bring people out of poverty.

 

Don't know it and don't care.

I gave a logical and concise reply to your post. Refute it if you can.

I have no time for whatever game you are trying to play from your ancient text.

Regards
DL

 

So are you claiming that belief in God must be completely void of logic and reason = "Faith" ? I disagree.

 

There is another thread out there about the dishonesty of creationists. Here is a perfect example of it.

- In post #371 you stated "That no one is forcing their beliefs; nor compelling you to believe anything?"
- In post #372 Greatest I am provided evidence that creationists are indeed trying to force their views on the general public and worst of all, in children.
- You now disregard his entire post and the evidence laid out before you with "You're wasting your time and bandwidth posting the cutesy stuff. I don't watch it."

I think we have another reason to add to the thread of 44 Reasons Creationists Are Deceptive

 

Ahhh.. the infamous appeal to authority:
"As a pattern of reasoning, this is clearly mistaken: no proposition must be true because some individual (however talented or successful) happens to believe it. Even in areas where they have some special knowledge or skill, expert authorities could be mistaken; we may accept their testimony as inductive evidence but never as deductive proof of the truth of a conclusion. Personality is irrelevant to truth."

The clause "I think we have...." is a supposition. One could just as easy assert that your supposition is in error.

 

What authority was invoked?

I must have missed it.

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DL

 

" In post #372 Greatest I am provided evidence that creationists are indeed trying to force their views on the general public and worst of all, in children."

That is showing a leaning on the authority and validity of what someone else has presented as evidence to be accepted as true.
""As a pattern of reasoning, this is clearly mistaken: no proposition must be true because some individual (however talented or successful) happens to believe it. Even in areas where they have some special knowledge or skill, expert authorities could be mistaken; we may accept their testimony as inductive evidence but never as deductive proof of the truth of a conclusion. Personality is irrelevant to truth.""

 

I see that as quite the reach but not worth arguing off topic to correct.

I do not see where providing information is claiming any authority.

But thanks for showing me what you meant.

Being third man in on this, I will let Tuatara speak for himself.

Regards
DL

 

whatever... thanks for the response.