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Health Insurance Deductibles Up 212 Percent Since 2008

Discussion in 'Health Care' started by camp_steveo, Oct 9, 2018.

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  1. Antiduopolist

    Antiduopolist Well-Known Member

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    I think you want to continue posting lengthy, derailing links which oppose the only sane and decent solution:

    Medicare for ALL.

    That's not rational discussion, it's deliberate obfuscation.
     
    Antiduopolist, Oct 9, 2018
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  2. Zorro

    Zorro Well-Known Member

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    But if we like our coverage and our doctor, we can keep our doctor, and save $2500 a year!
     
    Zorro, Oct 9, 2018
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  3. Antiduopolist

    Antiduopolist Well-Known Member

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    Do you want to discuss the issue or post link after link?

    The young and healthy didn't feel they needed to buy in and/or like tens of millions of others, couldn't afford to.

    "and another third if uninsured are eligible for assistance but for some reason are not" means what?
     
    Antiduopolist, Oct 9, 2018
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  4. Antiduopolist

    Antiduopolist Well-Known Member

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    Completely false.

    Medicare for ALL is the only sane, decent way to go.
     
    Antiduopolist, Oct 9, 2018
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  5. APACHERAT

    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Did Donald Trump really say that ?
     
    APACHERAT, Oct 9, 2018
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  6. camp_steveo

    camp_steveo Well-Known Member

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    wrong.

    you keep listing this tens of millions of uninsured, but its total bull ****.

    1/3 well off, and choose no insurance.
    1/3 are eligible, but for some reason are not.
    nearly 10 million are illegals.

    you also keep saying the same thing about medicare for all. we heard you the first three times. Got anything else?
     
    camp_steveo, Oct 9, 2018
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  7. grapeape

    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ok, then how do we fix healthcare costs in this country ?
     
    grapeape, Oct 9, 2018
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  8. camp_steveo

    camp_steveo Well-Known Member

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    the links I posted each refute your claim of tens of millions uninsured.

    what else ya got?
     
    camp_steveo, Oct 9, 2018
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  9. grapeape

    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Please cite your proof for this statistics ?
     
    grapeape, Oct 9, 2018
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  10. Antiduopolist

    Antiduopolist Well-Known Member

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    You really don't understand the basic facts.

    Tens of millions uninsured = Fact

    Tens of millions grossly under-insured and being slowly drained by staggering premiums = Fact

    "1/3 are eligible, but for some reason are not." = Makes no sense

    Medicare for ALL is the only sane alternative; all your kettle logic won't change this.
     
    Antiduopolist, Oct 9, 2018
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  11. camp_steveo

    camp_steveo Well-Known Member

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    Why are smart phones so cheap, yet HC is not affordable?
     
    camp_steveo, Oct 9, 2018
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  12. camp_steveo

    camp_steveo Well-Known Member

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    Done did. Read the thread.
     
    camp_steveo, Oct 9, 2018
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  13. Antiduopolist

    Antiduopolist Well-Known Member

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    Your links are part of your kettle dance; tens of millions are uninsured; tens of millions are being crushed by insane policies.

    These are just facts.

    Is it possible you've made up your mind and don't want a discussion, but just to kettle away?
     
    Antiduopolist, Oct 9, 2018
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  14. Antiduopolist

    Antiduopolist Well-Known Member

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    Big Money doesn't want affordable healthcare for the People.
     
    Antiduopolist, Oct 9, 2018
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We spend more yet receive less.
    What is keeping people sick is poor health decisions coupled with unaffordable health care.
     
    cd8ed, Oct 9, 2018
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  16. camp_steveo

    camp_steveo Well-Known Member

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    I linked to explanations of each of my points. You have not provided anything other than your opinion.
     
    camp_steveo, Oct 9, 2018
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    camp_steveo Well-Known Member

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    Are you a Russian trying to influence US elections?
     
    camp_steveo, Oct 9, 2018
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  18. Doofenshmirtz

    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    1 in 3 Americans are diabetic or pre-diabetic. We are not sick because of lack of access to pharm products or what you call "health care" The "Can't afford" argument is exactly why its a problem. Tax payers are forced to pay for what is making them sick, and then pay for keeping them sick.
     
    Doofenshmirtz, Oct 9, 2018
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    If the price comes down, the deductible will stay the same - and the patient burden unchanged - while the insurance company pockets the savings. Put a stake through the hearts of the private insurance companies. Medicare for all is the way to go. Repeal the HMO Act of 1973 and make it illegal to profit off of healthcare again.
     
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    Phyxius, Oct 9, 2018
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  20. camp_steveo

    camp_steveo Well-Known Member

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    its also BS that tens of millions are uninsured.

    I have provided links discrediting this fake news claim.
     
    camp_steveo, Oct 9, 2018
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  21. Antiduopolist

    Antiduopolist Well-Known Member

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    You've kettled.

    The basic facts are the basic facts; if you're in denial of basic facts, no rational discussion is possible with you.
     
    Antiduopolist, Oct 9, 2018
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  22. Antiduopolist

    Antiduopolist Well-Known Member

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    :rolleyes:
     
    Antiduopolist, Oct 9, 2018
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  23. camp_steveo

    camp_steveo Well-Known Member

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    I highlighted the part of your comment that is important to the patient.
     
    camp_steveo, Oct 9, 2018
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  24. Antiduopolist

    Antiduopolist Well-Known Member

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    Yes. Somewhat. Yes.
     
    Antiduopolist, Oct 9, 2018
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  25. squidward

    squidward Well-Known Member

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    Youd like to get subsidized by your fellow tax payers, wouldn't you?
     
    squidward, Oct 9, 2018
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