It slowed transmission because it stopped some people from getting infected and in turn infecting others. Okay. Factually incorrect. Anyway, those over 80 with three or more existing conditions--just "ready to go," as you put it--are write-offs? I don't suppose you realize this is no way makes a case for your claims of known harm caused by mRNA covid vaccines are significant enough to preclude getting vaccinated in even 50-year-olds.
If the Community I live in agrees with my perspective and there's enough of us then we do make the "call". Do you understand how democracy works?
Yes, you keep trying to tell them they have to remain pregnant. It's increasingly obvious they won't have any of it.
You can make any call you like, but women will defy laws that order them to remain pregnant. Not the way you seem to think it does.
Capitalists care more about control and profit than science. It is bipartisan and universal across issues. Both parties are bought and paid for by a set of corporate interests, who capture politicians and shape the bounds of discourse in our society. They also love when you only notice the one side doing it, while ignoring and defending these actions when done by your team. The problem is not specific to one party, it is specific to our current neoliberal capitalist reality.
Democracy and the law fail when the law is held in disrepute by a significant portion of the people. Gun grabbing? Won't work. Stop abortion? Ditto. The "war on drugs?" Nearly a century of failure.
It did not slow transmission in any significant way ? Your just making things and up it did not stop people from getting infected in any significant way . Nothing I have stated is factually incorrect .. nor was it claimed that the unhealthy are write-offs .. and the risk of harm from the mRNA vaccines are way higher in healthy 50 year olds than risk of harm from Covid. Your just spouting out the propaganda trope you heard from Maddow .. The CDC admitted the "Vax" doesn't prevent transmission long ago .. https://www.audacy.com/kmox/news/national/cdc-director-says-vaccines-are-not-preventing-transmission
You asked how democracy functions. It can't function without consent of the governed. Women won't put up with losing control over when or if they have children. If women won't let their husbands have control, they sure as hell won't give you the say.
It was much mote effective against earlier variants. With Omicron, the protection became mainly against serious disease for the individual. Boosters in British Columbia are given to 70-year-olds who haven't had covid, but otherwise limited to 80-years-old or those having the usual preexisting conditions. I don't watch MSNBC, and if I did I would skip her reporting.
I don't know where you got your propaganda narrative from -- "MSNBC" "CNN" "CDC" --as all were stumping for the Biden - Fauci - Big Pharma Lie -- the fact of the matter is that your unsupported caim that the vax prevents transmission is false . Now you want to claim that you were only partially wrong .. was effective against earlier varients .. again with no support but just as false as your initial claim -- What part of "Not effective against transmission" - did you have trouble understanding ? your claim that it was effective against transmission from earlier varients a made up falsehood as shown by the Massachussets study. First off .. we didn't have a vax for the earlierst varients ... and as soon as the vax came out - long before Omicron - we learned that Transmission was not prevented. CDC: 74% Of People Infected in Massachusetts COVID-19 Outbreak Were Vaccinated https://www.verywellhealth.com/cdc-report-vaccinated-breakthrough-infections-5195483 Sorry Langley .. YOUR WRONG - reciting spoon fed propaganda .. which, to some degree is not your fault - as that was what the media was spewing long after it was proven that the Vax did not stop transmission (and so was technically not a Vax) -- but I told you this previously and so what is your excuse now ? Your other claims were also false but -- no need to waste time disproving as your Transmission claim is proven 100% false .. There was never any evidence of significant prevention of Transmission .. should have been called a "Treatment" rather than a Vax as soon as we knew this .. but, thy carried on with the lie .. which most people - such as yourself did buy into. Laws based on that lie remained on the books turning Biden Blue into a NAZI Regime .. albeit we now know that it was already a Nazi Regime on the basis of other lies .. such as that the Vax was safe .. another of the false tropes you picked up from somewhere and repeat. Not "Safe" 1 in 800 Serious Adverse Reaction --- is not safe -- again not your fault perhaps -- unaware the koolaid you were drinking was spiked .. but completely false. 1 in 800 SAR is a ridiculously high risk of harm.
I went through this one before with with someone on the forum--I think it may have been with you. Not again. Even now with Omicron, the vaccines cut infection rates for a short period of time. https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/pdfs/mm7148e1-H.pdf https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/mm7148e1.htm Are you disputing the report on vaccine effectiveness? If so, on what basis? Lots of woofing by you, but no research. Proven false? By whom? You cited a news story; I cited research. Stiff woofing?
I did not dispute anything in that report.. Your problem is not understanding what you are reading .. and yes it was me that handed it to you previously .. eventually you running from the playground name calling .. and making up falsehoods such as your claim "no Research" when the post you are responding to gives Study .. which is a form of Research ... that is way better than pure Research in any case. What is ridiculous nonsense is posting two links - but citing nothing in those links - as if this refutes the CDC claim that the Vax doesn't prevent transmission - and Study detailing how the vax did not prevent transmission. You present a link to a study that does not address transmission -- not that we would know from your post because you do not cite anything from that link. Your claim the vax had some significant prevention of Transmission is False --- CDC has claimed it is false .. the Massachusetts study referenced showed your claim was false. You provide two links - neither of which support your claim.. which was some kind of fallacious joke..
Yes, you keep trying to tell them they have to inject mRNA into themselves. It's increasingly obvious they won't have any of it.
This was in my cite: https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/pdfs/mm7148e1-H.pdf If you don't get, you don't transmit it. Better look at what was in my cite. I wasn't arguing the case, but I did ask if you disagreed with the research. You must not have read it.
This isn’t Corona virus but it IS a a reminder that there are conditions out there that can kill - and in a short time https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-04-18/calls-for-meningococcal-b-vaccine-to-be-funded-/102234412
I've yet to see anyone advance a serious legal argument in favor of the state or the church having any claims to any woman's body.
I’ve yet to see any proposal that would end abortions. I’ve only seen proposals that would increase the number of deaths among pregnant women.
