Here is one the non-theists can go with.

Why is the word 'fact' not used in the KJV Bible yet the words 'belief' and 'believe' are used in that version of the Bible?

I would really like to see your input on that one question.

 

Because the word did not exist in its current form when the KJV was written

 

Potentially wrong:
"“I'm trying to think, don't confuse me with facts.”
― Plato"

Well the modern translation services provide this "ουσ. γεγονός, δεδομένο " (please don't ask me to pronounce any of it as I don't speak Greek). But what you are suggesting is that there was no translation for the word 'fact' in the Greek language at the time of Plato... Well, there must have been for the translators to come up with the quote from Plato above.

 

Come on guys and gals... I was sincerely hoping that you would have some input into this interesting 'fact'. Please don't lead me to believe that this is a question about the Bible and 'fact' that the non-theist, highly educated people on this forum cannot provide an adequate answer.

 

You have been given an adequate answer, the fact you dont like it is your problem

 

since many of us don't read your funny book, you'd be in a better position to tell us. though GOD knows why it's of interest, unless you're so desparate for a point score you're dredging the sludge at the bottom of the pond for any stray word game obfuscation you may have missed earlier.

 

In your perception it may have been "adequate" however the information you supplied was in error. The first English usage of the word 'fact' was done so around 1530- 1540.. Study the etymology of the word. The KJV was first published around 1611. Faulty information such as you provided can never be classed as "adequate".

 

Why would the word "fact" be used in the bible?

 

Why did you leave out what it meant in 1530?

 

Sorry about that... this thread was intended for all of your non-theists to have some fun with.. but if you insist on my interjection of definitions, I will give you a link that will be of future use to you.
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=fact

Hope that will assist you.

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I'm not sure about that... that is why I offered the matter to the non-theists.. I was thinking that they might have a better understanding of such things.

 

From your own link which was my point

After the KJV was written

 

The word "fact" does not appear in the Koran either. What does that prove? Nothing. God leaves it for every individual to decide what is fact and what is not. For his plan to work, he must rely on your understanding to help you see the truth in the word of God. God can show you the path, but it is you that must take it.

 

Well, it seems pretty silly.
There is nothing factual about the bible so why would it want to use the word fact. (I'll wait)
The bible is all about belief and faith.

 

maybe cause it was not intended to be a factual story book

 

It was first used in its 'current form' in 1530's.

"Because the word did not exist in its current form when the KJV was written "

Notice the very words that you used "in its current form" .... you said nothing about its "current meanings". You lose.

 

duplicate post.

 

English is not your first language is it?

 

Hey,,, I agree with you... but this thread was intended for the non-theists to have a little fun in trying to figure out the answer to that question.

 

On the contrary. English is my first language.
Which of the following definitions is the one or many that would lead you to suggest that English is not my "first language"?

"form (fôrm)
n.
1.
a. The shape and structure of an object.
b. The body or outward appearance of a person or an animal considered separately from the face or head; figure.
2.
a. The essence of something.
b. The mode in which a thing exists, acts, or manifests itself; kind: a form of animal life; a form of blackmail.
3.
a. Procedure as determined or governed by regulation or custom.
b. A fixed order of words or procedures, as for use in a ceremony; a formula.
4. A document with blanks for the insertion of details or information: insurance forms.
5.
a. Manners or conduct as governed by etiquette, decorum, or custom.
b. Behavior according to a fixed or accepted standard: Tardiness is considered bad form.
c. Performance considered with regard to acknowledged criteria: a good jump shooter having an unusual form.
6.
a. Proven ability to perform: a musician at the top of her form.
b. Fitness, as of an athlete or animal, with regard to health or training.
c. The past performance of a racehorse.
d. A racing form.
7.
a. Method of arrangement or manner of coordinating elements in literary or musical composition or in organized discourse: presented my ideas in outline form; a treatise in the form of a dialogue.
b. A particular type or example of such arrangement: The essay is a literary form.
c. The design, structure, or pattern of a work of art: symphonic form.
8.
a. A mold for the setting of concrete.
b. A model of the human figure or part of it used for displaying clothes.
c. A proportioned model that may be adjusted for fitting clothes.
9. A grade in a British secondary school or in some American private schools: the sixth form.
10.
a. A linguistic form.
b. The external aspect of words with regard to their inflections, pronunciation, or spelling.
11.
a. Chiefly British A long seat; a bench.
b. The resting place of a hare.
12. Botany A subdivision of a variety usually differing in one trivial characteristic, such as flower color."

 

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What's the plan God is working on?
So is the Koran the book we should look to for guidance/truth? Or some other?
It is hard to take the path cuz the bible, jewish writings, and the koran have differing ideas.
Then there are the many many other religions that don't pertain to the Hebrew God but a God from a different society/tribe. It is there guidelines/truth we should be following?

 

A "linguistic form" says nothing about the definition of the subject word.

Explain your rationale.

 

There is only one source for god's plan. That is the Bible. If you want to understand God's plan, it is spelled out for you in Revelations. Read that, and then ask me again.

 

There is no rationale. Linguistics refers to the form in language. Language is made up of words. Words carry meaning. I would suggest giving up now while you are behind

 

Could it be, because the Bible is all smoke and mirrors? Sorry, couldn't resist.