Here We Go Again (The Carter Nightmare)

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Just A Man, Nov 12, 2021.

  1. mitchscove

    mitchscove Well-Known Member Donor

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    You claimed that American oil was more expensive than foreign oil. My own post demonstrated that you were posting a falsehood. WTI has been cheaper than Brent, the global benchmark.
     
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    mitchscove Well-Known Member Donor

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    Trump responded to Russia and the Saudis engaging in price manipulation to put US producers out of business as global demand tanked due to COVID. That has nothing to do with Biden's separate operation to help Russia destroy US energy production starting on January 21, 2021.
     
  3. LangleyMan

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    Haven't Trump, Abbott, and DeSantis killed enough Americans to keep Republicans happy?

    British Columbia has 443 deaths per million while Florida has 2,826 and Texas has 2,521. That's 6.38 times as many as BC for Florida and 5.69 times as high for Texas.
     
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  4. DentalFloss

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    One of the dumber things I've read on this forum. And that's saying something, because I read some stuff here that is so stupendously stupid, I'm convinced it's just poorly written bots.

    You see, if Trump (or anyone else for that matter) had used threats to CUT oil supplies last year, we would have seen a price hike LAST YEAR. Of all the products we as consumers typically buy, oil is probably the single most price sensitive things there are, which is why when Texas floods, other states gas prices go up before those floods have had a chance to do actually do anything. It barely takes a week (and that's being generous) for oil supply dips or spikes to effect end user prices, though to nobody's surprise, end user prices respond even faster to dips than they do spikes, certainly not a year or more.

    Bottom line is that you're just making up fancy sounding BS.
     
  5. DentalFloss

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    This is also a stupid thing to say. If your paycheck goes up by 100%, but inflation goes up by 200%, you have not received a raise. Then again, I'm starting to think you're one of those poorly written bots I spoke of above because all you do is issue 6-8 word edicts as if they were indisputable facts, without even bothering to explain yourself or make your case.
     
  6. jcarlilesiu

    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The economy was already in trouble due to the pandemic. Choices Biden made made it worse. Let's not pretend the economy entered free fall the day Biden took office, it started long before that to coincide with a global pandemic.
     
  7. LangleyMan

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    Trump didn't kill enough Americans with his idiotic covid policies?

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    Instead we got a Secretary of Transportation who thought his holding that title while not doing his job and staying home with baby was more important the rest of the country.[/QUOTE]
     
  8. jcarlilesiu

    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sure it did. In the middle of an global economic pandemic. Then came the left wing freebies and handouts like drunken sailors at a strip club.

    Trump opposed continued "stimulus" that Biden ran on, like always handing out money from the treasury to buy votes.

    Prove me wrong.
     
  9. Giftedone

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    We produce roughy 11 million bpd -- we consume roughly 20 million bpd .. more than 40% of oil into US refineries is imported.
    What is this gibberish ? .. the Brent price is higher than WTI - West Texas Intermediate - and way than Canadian Crude.

    So you are wrong but, why would you want to import oil in any case -- as this is one of the main causes of increasing CO2 massive Ocean Pollution.

    The True Blue Biden Policy - "Not in my Back Yard - Dump it in the Ocean" - Lets just transport our pollution problems to other nations . .. Yeah .. That's it.
     
  10. jcarlilesiu

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    Absolutley false.

    On day one of Bidens administration, he passed an executive order to stop oil drilling on federal lands. He supported continued federal unemployment payments, supported more stimulus. Opposed logical reopening of the economy...

    Decisions have consequences and reprocussions. Every time something goes wrong, the left has some excuse why it isn't their policy. Time to man up.
     
  11. Cybred

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    Uh yep I have received a raise, you see a raise and inflation are 2 separate things.
     
  12. 9royhobbs

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    Nope
    https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-...ter/promise/1359/achieve-energy-independence/
    Now you try to prove it did
    Sure, now prove it.
    How sad. You admit that he got a lot of people killed by saying covid was over and everyone go back to work. News flash, covid is STILL not over but because of Biden's vaccine policies and despite the right's misinformation propaganda against it (even thought they praised Trump for getting the vaccine quickly...he didn't).
    "HIS STYLE"!!! His "style" is a trail of failed businesses and constant lawsuits because he can. His "style" is that of a con man. He's also insane.
    So you admit the problem was there before he took office
    So you think in this day and age and after the past year that someone has to be in "the office" to do the job. Your statement lacks complete credibility.
     
  13. Bluesguy

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    He saved millions, Operation Warp Speed.

    And in the middle of a transportation crisis the Secretary of Transportation believes his being home with baby is more important the rest of the country.
     
  14. Cybred

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    So why are there trumpers who are anti-vaxxers?
     
  15. Bluesguy

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    Yep
    The United States Was Energy Independent in 2019 for the First Time Since 1957
    U.S. energy production in 2019 was higher than U.S. energy consumption for the first time in 62 years.
    https://www.instituteforenergyresea...endent-in-2019-for-the-first-time-since-1957/


    How many days in office before he signed to stop Keystone?

    Quote me saying I admit he got a lot of people killed? He saved millions and would have had the economy back on track and people working again.

    Oh spare me....

    No, you said he "created" the problem. The problem started as the took office, he did nothing and then took off for two months and now is scrambling to try and say he is doing something like getting more daycare going, yea that'll fix it.

    In a high position such as Secretary of Transportation during a transportation crisis, you betcha I don't think they should be going on sabbaticals but should out there all around the country meeting with heads of the logistics industry first hand and devoting their time to solving the problem, it's not a part time job. He decided that his being with his baby was more important than solving the crisis that is affecting the whole country.
     
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  16. Bluesguy

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    Why are there non-trumpers? What does that have to do with the millions of lives saved?
     
  17. Cybred

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    I'm just wondering why some trumpers refuse to take the vaccine that trump's operation warp speed worked so hard to produce.
     
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    Trump told them to reduce supply to bring prices back up, now we have higher prices

    "Trump threatens 'very substantial' tariffs on imported oil if Saudi Arabia and Russia can't reach a deal to push prices back up"

    https://www.insider.com/trump-threatens-saudi-arabia-russia-oil-tariffs-2020-4
     
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    Trump told them he created the vaccine, and they believe him, I would be scared to take it too if I believe Trump created it
     
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    How about NY and CA?
     
  21. LangleyMan

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    The vaccines were under development before the Orange Toad hoodwinked folks like you with his "Operation Warp Speed."

    "The world was able to develop COVID-19 vaccines so quickly because of years of previous research on related viruses and faster ways to manufacture vaccines, enormous funding that allowed firms to run multiple trials in parallel, and regulators moving more quickly than normal. Some of those factors might translate to other vaccine efforts, particularly speedier manufacturing platforms."

    https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-03626-1

    Check out the vaccines under development.

    https://covid19.trackvaccines.org/vaccines/#progress-meter

    https://www.raps.org/news-and-articles/news-articles/2020/3/covid-19-vaccine-tracker

    Trump didn't save you.
     
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    And with Operation Warp speed they were fast tracked, approved and gotten to market. You just can't stand it.
     
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    I think there is plenty of reporting why people choose not to get vaccinated, I've never read any one saying because Trump told them not to or something. I don't consider most blacks Trump supporters and they are one of if not the highest demographic group that has not gotten vaccinated, and it is WIDELY available to EVERYONE. Why haven't they?
     
  24. LangleyMan

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    New York has 2,954 and California has 1,854.

    Cuomo is gone (good!), but DeSantis and Abbott are still here.

    One down, two to go.
     
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    You look the other way when the truth is revealed about the Orange Oaf.

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