Well, why am I supposed to be against Israel? I am so glad that we have Israel in the ME. They are modern and advanced society. And the people of the ME have many things to learn from them! Israel and Turkey is quite similar to eachother. And I love Israeli people. Personally I like Israeli dance music and Israeli producers like Yahel, Astral Projection, regularly come here Istanbul to play their beautiful songs. Also note that the second president Ben Zvi and the first prime minister of Israel Ben Gurion studied in Turkish high schools and Turkish universities in Istanbul and they knew Turkish language and Turkey well. And many Israeli people go to the Turkish holiday resorts in every summer. As for the existence of the Israel state. Let me tell you one thing, If you won your independence war, you have every right to exist. That's how the world's political systems work. Israelies won their wars impressively. End of story. Let's move on. We should focus on how we can improve our life standarts and economical relations to make the ME a better place to live!
They are modern and advanced society http://www.aljazeera.net/mritems/images/2008/2/28/1_771203_1_34.jpg http://arabic.rt.com/media/pics/2009.01/512/20531.jpg http://www.rohama.org/files/fa/news/1389/9/9/16480_885.jpg
We are a very technologically advanced society. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_technology_in_Israel If you would please give some context to those photos, for all i know those children are Lybians, also even if they are residents of gaza, then i would like to point out that when a person is a resident in a home and allows terrorists to launch rockets from their homes they should not be horribly surprised when their homes get bombed. The moment you get involved in a conflict like that you are no longer a civilian, you are a combatant. Secondly that last photo is obviously doctored: Firstly the IDF does not use human shields, and I know this from personal experience. Secondly having a human shield close to the wall like that is tactically stupid, you want to be close to the wall as that provides you with the most cover. Lastly in order for someone to take that picture they would have had to be standing out in the open in a place where a soldier was about to go around a corner. Why would any soldier allow a cameraman go in front of him, and why would any person go ahead of a soldier into what may be a line of fire.
Calm down boy. I am an ethnic Avshar, so chances are I might be more Turk than you are (sick!). And Turkishness has nothing to do with whether you're a supporter of Israel or not. As for the majority of Turks being against Israel, well we can safely say that the immense majority of Turks are against the policy on the people of Gaza. I am also one of them. But this doesn't necessarily mean that I am against Israeli existence in the ME and supporting HAMAS. What's more Turkey has never said that Turkey is critical on the existence of Israel. We all want Israel to be a good and easy boy that's all. And the vast majority of Israeli people are cool, well educated, civil, and easy to get along with.
Whatever , the political rhetoric/propaganda crap and BS , a great injustice has been + being done to non-Jewish = Christian + Muslim , Palestinians and millions lives are still intolerable under Israeli military occupation . Untill such time when those people's basic human rights are respected, I cannot have any goodwill towards Israel. I never buy any products , which are marked as being of Israeli origin. I've been to J'Lem + surrounds , and seen what they're really like. ....
I think Turkey should improve her ties with Israel like it was before Erdoğan, and keep being peace negotitator between Palestine and Israel again for sake of regional peace. Bad relations between us neither help us or Israelis, nor the Palestinians. I'm happy you're not brainwashed into anti-Israeli hatred and came up with more logical arguement on this. I agree with the most of the points you made.
Turkey was far too friendly with the Zionists Great Model, Hitler, and would be half-witted to identify with his followers as they begin to set up their death camps in Gaza: a bit too much like deliberately contracting the pox, isn't it?
Ever since the Ottoman Sultan's disasterous decision in 1914 when it backed the wrong horse forming an alliance with Kaiser's Germany. Successive Turkish Governments + Military regimes has been in a state of confusion ever since, with no clear policies or direction. Neither East nor West , and NOT European enough for other Europeans , in a sort of Limbo. However , its another of my my favourite holidays resorts- - lovely people. cheers.
