Hillary a liar? When? Where? How? Inform us.

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  1. Arjay51

    Arjay51 Well-Known Member

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    What is simple is you posting only your biased views and refusing to even consider that there may be other views which have as much or more validity as those of your masters. Simple and foolish. Wait until you grow up and see the world with clear eyes before you attempt to take part in an adult conversation.

    Now, go whine to your masters for more to post in the way of their lies.
     
  2. bwk

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    Except you haven't produced them like I said you wouldn't because they don't exist. Lol! Boss, start using a little horse sense here and let this go. You have nothing to bargain with here. There is no rebuttal that exists to the links I produced, so stop pretending there is some magic potion you have that debunks mine. You're just exposing your own foolishness.
    I'm done growing. It's on you now to produce. And we all know that isn't going to happen now don't we?

    This has juvenile written all over it. Yea, I new from the beginning you were all talk.
     
  3. Bluesguy

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    It is about asking when where and how she has lied and since you seem to claim she has not I asked you two questions so stop the dancing around and answer them.

    Did she get State Dept. approval for her shadow server and did it meet all the rules a regulations for official business especially for classified information as she claimed?
     
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    Sorry but look at polifact or any other independent analysis and Trump wins the lier contest hands down. That fact that when those that claim Hillary is a lier are challenged they never seem to be able to come up with any signficant evidence. The Benghazi nonsense has been bebunked by repeated Republican investigations and even the Email silliness has been reduced to a non issue by the FBI.
     
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    CourtJester Well-Known Member

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    Nice try. Read the endless lists of Trump's lies and then see if you can find any that say " in my opinion" or " I think" . People with Trump's combination of mental disorders almost never use those phrases because they believe that what they think is fact. Try it on Trump's lies about his opposing Iraq and Libya or actually any list of Trump's lies.
     
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    I'm talking about blatant lies such as Trump claiming he had hand picked himself, his professors for Trump university. Or, saying he saw thousands of Muslims cheering after 9/11.
     
  7. Bluesguy

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    Did she get State Dept. approval for her shadow server and did it meet all the rules a regulations for official business especially for classified information as she claimed?
     
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    And those trump the lies about the handling of our national security told repeatedly by a high government official to the Amaerican people for 16 months?
     
  9. Arjay51

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    Perhaps if you got out of your momma's basement once in a while and looked at the real world, not just self satisfying selected views of it, you would begin to see that all you are doing is showing how you fail to think for yourself and refuse to face facts. That, and continually make excuses for your failed hero's.

    I don't have to provide any proof to the childish likes of you. The more you post, the evident your lies become.

    I hope that someday you have an original thought, but I doubt it.
     
  10. bwk

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    I'm not dancing around anything. You were the one that said the emails were what this thread was about.

    Did she get State Dept. approval for her shadow server and did it meet all the rules a regulations for official business especially for classified information as she claimed?[/QUOTE] No, she did not get approval, but we all know why, as pointed out here; http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/07/06/fact-check-clinton-emails/86735856/ It was for the same reason I pointed out many times in the past. She started this practice going all the way back to 2001. Email was still a very new concept as it was to most politicians. And that is really the gist of it. It wasn't done so as to do something illegal, or hide some secret information of hers. It was simply an old practice that most of us can get caught up in. But, to think someone should apply criminal charges to that sort of thing is just simply out to lunch. It's ridiculous. Folks who have pushed for her to go to jail for that, are simply on a hate mission.
     
  11. Bluesguy

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    Did she get State Dept. approval for her shadow server and did it meet all the rules a regulations for official business especially for classified information as she claimed?

    Well then she lied repeatedly to the American people and the Congress about her official duties as a high government official.

    Did it meet all the rules and regulations at the time?
     
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    I agree. With that kind of brain stimulation you have provided, by not producing a shred of counter rebuttal to my claims, how can anyone actually start a thought process? I might just as well argue with myself about the evidence I produced. At least myself and I would have had something to think about.
     
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    She was excoriated over both for her failures as SecState and her EXTREME CARELESSNESS in the handling of our nations top secrets and her untruthfullness to the American people about her official duties.
     
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    Now you have me totally confused. What exactly you saying about his claim to have seen " thousands of muslims cheering"

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    Please give exact quotes from report " excoriating untruthfullness about offical duties"
     
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    Lied about what?

    At what time? Remember, this practice had been going on since 2001, just as it had with other politicians in high places. So, did it meet rules and regulations? You tell me. It wasn't illegal. But, if you say it didn't meet all rules and regulations then fine. Lets line up every politician in Washington since email began and cite to them the rules and regulations, that they have not been following. That's what this is really about.

    Your argument from day one has been a petty argument tied to one person, when we know multiple politicians were doing the same thing so many years ago. Why was this not brought up in the beginning? Because no one thought to use it up until now as a witch hunt against a politician. This is nothing more than a hate fest directed towards one person. Find me one politician who mistakenly hasn't done one thing or another that is petty in nature, throw that politician in jail for it, and you wouldn't have any politicians left.
     
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    LOL, partisan blindness. No other politician cooked up a homebrew server so they would not have to answer FOIA requests.
     
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    Go read the IG report. Go listen to the first 14 minutes of Cindy's statement and then the back and forth between him and Gowdy at the hearing.

    Then you can start with was she telling the truth when she said her shadow server had been fully approved by the State Dept. IT and security officials as she claimed and whether it met all the rules and regulations for the handling of official business and especially the handling of classified information.
     
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    About what I asked you and yih already admitted she was not telling g the truth.

    The time in which she served DUH.

    And I have no interest in your emotional diatribes so save yourself some typing.
     
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    For hardcore Trumpsters, I would think that calling someone a "Liar!" would be a compliment that would evoke the cheers of "thousands and thousands."

    As a concession to Republican traditionalists, I have heard that the show business performer, whilst not singing the praises of NAFTA like Pence, will attempt to unify the Party by selectively adopting some aspects of GOP statecraft - such as vomiting on foreign leaders.

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    Pretty sad when your only defense of Hillary is that somebody else is a liar (by liberal definition) too.
     
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    If you were actually capable of a thought process, you would have bowed out of this discussion long ago. You do argue with yourself to convince yourself, despite all facts to the contrary, that you have some point.

    since you admit that you only can convince yourself that you have some point, perhaps it would be best if you just discussed it with yourself down in your basement where no truth can ever annoy you.
     
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    I suppose it would be if I were defending Clinton. Im sorry if my not doing so makes you sad.

    Trumphumps' best defense of their prickly messiah braying Liar! at anyone who upsets him is a dubious one: "It takes one to know one," is hardly a unmitigated tribute to their master.

     
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    Still your only defense for Hillary that was labeled a congenital liar as long ago as the 90s.

    BTW, getting things wrong as opposed to Hillary's blatant ass covering lies are two different things.
     
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    Yes, politicians are not invariably sticklers for the truth. it's just amusing that those who have been issued the "Liar!" meme, are groveling around a show business performer who has set an unattainable standard for others in that respect. (See FactCheck's litany.)

    It's reminiscent of 2012, when Angry White Guys' marching orders were to rage hysterically about an individually-mandated health insurance reform plan based upon private exchanges, and then nominated the originator of RomneyCare, the individually-mandated health insurance reform plan based upon private exchanges, the model for the nation.

    The only shtick that would as mirthful would be if their ideological entertainers had instructed them to fixate upon attacking Clinton's hair.
     
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    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/f...to-state-department-on-friday/article/2596787

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    Ah, another excuse for Hillary's lying, 'Angry White Guys'. Can you get more desperate?
     

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