Hillary a liar? When? Where? How? Inform us.

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  1. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    I make no excuses for any politicians who are less than candid. Nor do I pretend that the show business entertainer's copious, documented instances of deceit are to be blithely exculpated.

    Angry White Guys can get very angry when they are mentioned.

    Senator Graham noting their attrition may occasion their becoming especially pissy:
     
  2. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I am not surprised you obsess on race.
     
  3. CourtJester

    CourtJester Well-Known Member

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    Well not really. Nobody has ever claimed that Hillary has not misspoken but there is a clear difference between that and Trump's egregious outright lying which even his staunchest supporters seem unable to rationalize.
     
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    I'm still confused? What lies are you talking about? You do know there is a difference in telling a lie versus a practice of doing something for years by a host of politicians right? I'm not sure you have a clear handle on the definition of a fabrication.

    Something that was practiced for years in government, because first it was something new, and second, if it was such a matter of national security back when email was new, and Clinton started using it in 2001, she and everyone would have been given a tongue lashing.

    You are basing your claims on the ridiculous assumption that all this time politicians including Clinton had some kind of covert operation going on with their use of email. It wasn't. The fact is, back then, it's obvious no one in any administration ever had the radar on so close as to think these email practices were nefarious in nature, and posed a national security threat with the way emails were sent and received.

    You can bark forever about this and it will never change the reality of what I just said. Once again for the umpteenth time, your insane hate for this woman has clouded your better judgment. You keep repeating the same script, and it takes you no where. The woman hasn't lied, and there isn't anything else you can say or do about it, but to keep on with your obsession.
     
  5. bwk

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    In the meantime, you have produced absolutely nothing as a rebuttal to my claims. See you later, and thanks for the big waste of time you could have saved the both of us.
     
  6. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You are funny. You have your names switched around, but then, I don't expect much from a Hillary sycophant.
     
  7. CourtJester

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    Fine, explain Trump's massive lies about his wealth, his opposition to invading Iraq, or his lies about opposing Libya. Any one that you can actually explain will be a step in justifying your blind worship of the biggest fibber in recent political memory..
     
  8. Hoosier8

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    You know his wealth? Please tell us exactly what it is.
     
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    CourtJester Well-Known Member

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    So you can't defend his obvious lies. Why are we not surprised. And nobody knows his actual wealth but absolutly nobody thinks it is anywhere near his claimed ten billion. My guess is it is close to zero based on his ripping off the Trump University students and his attempt not to give the veterans the money he raised. Can't imagine anyone who is actually worth ten billion or even three or four billion having to be that sleazy.

    Add that to the fact that he won't release his tax returns and the case is quite strong that while his assets may be in the billions but his liabilities are even higher.

    But enough about his lie about his wealth. Got any response to his lies about Iraq and Libya.
     
  10. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Translation: you don't know so you just made a claim which makes you a liar. See how that works?
     
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    CourtJester Well-Known Member

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    Yep you are using the Trump attack mode instead of addressing the actual issue. Now it would have been a lie had I Said I know his actual net worth but I didn't say that. I Said that he lied about the ten billion which is true.

    And you are still ducking the other Trump lies about Iraq and Libya.
     
  12. Hoosier8

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    Sorry you don't like the fact that I'm using the Democrat playbook. You lied.
     
  13. CourtJester

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    Nope. If you are going to claim I lied you will have to,prove that Trump's net worth is ten billion which you cannot do because it isn't. Here is the definitive estimate of Trump's worth from Forbes. Hint- it s not ten billion so your hero lied!

    http://www.forbes.com/donald-trump/#641b3a11790b
     
  14. Hoosier8

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    Doubling Down on your lie? Go figure. Dem playbook 101.
     
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    That's rich. "Misspoken" is the liberal word for lie. At least when applied to their candidate. As for nobody ever claiming that Hillary has never lied, check this thread and loo for posts by bwk. He defends every lie she has even considered and claims she is innocent of all of her crimes.

    Another liberal claim debunked.
     
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    Spin, gullibility or down right stupidity - take your pick.

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    There is nothing to rebut as your claims are all partisan and false. But from one like you, until you get instructions saying otherwise, it is to be expected. Lies to cover lies.
     
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    This statement from a Clinton supporter? Do you actually believe what you post or are you just parroting liberal talking points?
     
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    Was her shadow server approved for official use by the State Dept IT, security and legal officials as she claimed?
    Did it meet all the regulations that were in place as she claimed?

    Those are just a start.

    The rest of your hyperbolic rant not worth responding too. Now focus in what I just asked.
     
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    Yes Clinton certain does but never knew that is what drove Sanders anger.
     
  20. bwk

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    You're posts are too juvenile for serious debate. You're here just to troll. There is never anything serious about the substance of your arguing points, because you have no arguing points.
     
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    The problem you have, is you have invented questions that you or I and possibly Clinton cannot answer. Why? Because, for all we know, going back to my original statements of inexperience by most politicians since the inception of email, it is very likely "WHATEVER" she told authorities at the time were true for her. And this is why you are bogged down with this insane obsession of yours. You'll never get past understanding that reality, or it simply isn't convenient for you to understand it.

    Not that you would take my advise, but think of it this way. If I attempted to explain to you every component part to a computer, I would have to try and wing it by telling you what I do know and what I think I know. Beyond that, I know little to nothing. And that was Hillary's problem. She said what she thought she knew. Which is not lying. You however, like the rest, try and twist that to say she is lying. Sorry, but folks like Comey know the same thing I know. Which is why your argument never gets you anywhere. And why it never will.
     
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    Attempting to have a serious discussion with you is like talking to a second grader, pointless. You never even consider other thoughts and insist that any answers given to you must conform to your standards, all other must be wrong.

    The only true troll in this thread is you and your blatant unreasoning bias to believe your rulers every word. There have been plenty of her lies exposed yet you refuse to recognize them because they would rock your insular little world and you would have to admit to being wrong. One definition of a troll. Another definition: bwk.
     
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    If your excuse is her lies are 'true for her', that is called Schizophrenia.
     
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    So is your position that Trump did not lie about his wealth and opposing the invasion of Iraq or the action in Libya. Give me a yes or no answer and if it your answer is Trump did not lie I will post the proof in his very own words.
     
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    No Actually the lie is yours when you claimed I said I knew his exact wealth. What I said was Trump lied when he said he was worth ten billion and I posted the Forbes link to prove it. So you can admit you lied or Trump lied or you can admit that both of you are liars.
     

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