Hillary is a NON-MONETARY Progressive...

The WALL STREET WHORE, Hillary, is a "fake" progressive. What she does to make you believe that she is a progressive is "Fight Hard!" as she says, "...for progressive issues!" And last night she named a few... Gay Marriage, "children's issues", advocating for women, LGBT and minorities, gun control... these where the examples she gave last night to try to convince people of her progressive "street cred"! Lol!

What's the common thread here? Well, how about these issues?

• Free/Affordable College
• Single Payer Health Care
• Regulating Wall Street
• The Environment
• Infrastructure

Yup, things that co$t MONEY or co$t her big donors money or co$t Wall Street money, or co$t the Insurance Companies money, or co$t the top 1% money,or co$t Pharmaceutical Companies money,or co$t Oil Companies money! Things that benefit the AVERAGE PERSON/MIDDLE CLASS monetarily ... $aving them MONEY! Hell NO!!! is what Hillary says then!

 

that'll do in a pinch, better than handing over the farm to the dealers of death party

 

There isn't one Presidential candidate running that is exempt from Wall Street.

 

I say DEATH TO AMERICA then. I am tired of being a PUSSSY... LIKE YOU! I say ALL OR NOTHING, Fcck Hillary! Bernie or BURN IT DOWN! I'll laugh at the STUPID RED STATE HILLBILLIES as they cry why their stupid red neck boys get shipped home in a body bag from some worthless war fighting for access to oil fields in some ******** country! LOL! And I'll laugh when some stupid hick moron gets his Medicare privatrized! FCCK Everybody!

I'm going to either fight to get Bernie in, or fight to give the farm to the dealers of death! No more lesser evil for me.

 

As much as I enjoy your rant against the crony socialist running against Comrade Sanders, permit me to point out an inconvenient fact - the following things cost money to the middle class working peasants that Her Imperious Majesty claims she will fight for:

• Free/Affordable College
• Single Payer Health Care
• Regulating Wall Street
• The Environment
• Infrastructure

Sandersistas need to wake up and face the fact that none of the "free" (*)(*)(*)(*) that Bolshevik Bernie is promising you is free. You're gonna wind up paying for it one way or the other.
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Trump?

 

I don't expect anything free, nobody does, the point is that EVERY OTHER INDUSTRIALIZED COUNTRY IN THE FCCKING WORLD has all of these things, we can too! Listen RETARD, we don't have to pay all this tribute money to the Wall Street azzholes, we can fight a class war and smack the fccking smirks off their faces, and also mean literally! But people like you have been brainwashed for over 30 years that it's somehow wrong to do that, when it isn't.

 

In RETARD America, it's called "free stuff" in all the NORMAL countries, where NORMAL people live, it's called a HUMAN RIGHT and everyday life.

 

You do realize that she's way to the left of the Republicans on all 5 of those issues right? However, this idea that she's a progressive who can "get things done" is a joke, because unless the Democrats have 60 seats in the Senate and control of the House not one of her proposals can pass.

 

....except Bernie.

 

Last night, Hillary said her vote has never been influenced by money and challenged Bernie to find any case to the contrary. Well gosh. Watch the video.....

http://billmoyers.com/2015/11/18/fl...out-hillary-clinton-wall-street-and-lobbying/

 

It is common knowledge that the expression "free stuff" is an attack term of the right wing. We all know nothing is free (duh). The question is how to solve problems. And so I have a question for you: do you not know what Bernie has said regarding his plans to pay for college and universal healthcare? If not, I or someone here can help you.

 

So then why not fight for the whole enchilada! I don't expect Bernie to be able to pass anything! I just want him on TV everyday ramming his message down RETARD USA's throats for at least 4 years until they think about it! That's how the damn right did it-NEVER WAVER-say OUR WAY IS BETTER over and over again! Hillary is just going to play nice and try to stop the Republicans from making things worse, Bernie will be educating America and hopefully waking the DUMB PEOPLE that live here from their slumber! I don't care that Hillary would be the "progressive getting things done" I'd rather not play SMILEY FACE and get some trvial things done, I'd rather stick to my guns and demand EVERYTHING, just like the TEA PARTY DOES.

 

I can just feel the love oozing out of your every post.

Indistinguishable from a post by an ISIS member.

 

Bull(*)(*)(*)(*). "Progressives" are constantly demanding "free" stuff - Crazy Bernie and the Sandersistas are no different:

It’s Time to Make College Tuition Free and Debt Free
https://berniesanders.com/issues/its-time-to-make-college-tuition-free-and-debt-free/

Uh-huh. Bernie's beloved Soviet Union had all those things and look at it now. Since the Russkies shoved their heads up their asses we should, too!

Yeah, I'm brainwashed because I'm not an OccuTard who doesn't even remotely understand economics and human nature and still, after 25+ years, hasn't wrapped my tiny little socialist brain around the implications of the fall of the Berlin Wall and the collapse of the Soviet Union.

You and the rest of the Babeuvian Illiterati haven't had an original idea in 220 years. It's no wonder you (*)(*)(*)(*) up everything you touch...

 

Yes, it will be paid for, unlike the GOP who starts two wars costing trillions of bucks and then lower taxes on the rich. Driving up debt. Fiscal Hawks is what they call themselves.

So, to rebuild infastructure and modernize it, the rich lose their loopholes to offshore their incomes, and profits, and Forbes said in 2012 this was in excess of 20 trillion bucks, which means its more now, and taxing this will finance the infrastructure. To pay for public college, a tax on wall street speculation, for a high school diploma no longer is enough, as it once was, and people need a degree in this modern high tech world.

On healthcare, he would want to get rid of ACA, a boom to insurance, which is the healthcare of an oligarchy, and people pay a larger deduction from payroll for healthcare which is about half of what their insurance premiums are today with ACA. So the people pay less for healthcare, even if their taxes go up.

And to increase social security payments, he wants to raise he caps on it, which will cover this, as well as extending it far into the future. So he has laid out how what he wants is paid for, and he will press for a higher marginal tax rate on the rich elites, so they pay their fair share, since all new growth in GDP, most of it, goes directly to them. This is what a rigged system yields for the elites. And they rigged it with the great help of both the corporate owned dem party and the corporate owned GOP. In exchange for the oligarchs financing their damned campaigns. You know, mafia styled behavior.

BTW, Sanders having a virtual tie in iowa has closed the gap nationally between him and the banking cabal owned Clinton. Within two points in the poll just out today. America is feeling the Bern. And it seems enough of us are fed up with both oligarch owned parties. Who only represent the rich, but who some white working americans are too stupid to realize, to their own harm. I am sure we have none of those here though, as the neoliberal cons here are too smart to cut their own throats into perpetuity.

 

Comparing sanders to the old USSR is a bit uneducated. If you want to compare sanders to anything, compare him to the Nordic European nations, who have capitalism, and social programs, a mixed economy, that so far, are the only ones that actually benefit the majority of people who live in those nations.

Pure socialism or communism does not work. Pure unfettered capitalism does not work, except for the few at the top. What does work, is what FDR gave us, but the GOP dismantled with help from Clinton corporate democrats, and its similar model in those Nordic nations who have a mixed model, but still keep private ownership and capitalism.

Some people really need to get an education. I will not hold my breath on it though. Ignorance is bliss.

 

You MORONS who complain about free stuff, don't use common sense? I'm not poor, my annual salary is six figures, between my wife and I we make $200K. we live in a pretty large suburban home in a decent neighborhood. We aren't poor and we WORK HARD, we both work full time jobs.

We can pay all our health care, insurance and expenses and when the time comes, yes, we can figure out a way to get our daughter a higher education. No problem.

But, not being a typical AMERICAN RETARD who is the epitome of "American Exceptionalism", meaning, like most conservatives, "exceptionally stupid". I have to wonder why the citizens in other countries similar to ours pay half as much for health care, and their kids get out of college with NO DEBT?

No, I don't want "free stuff" I just want what smart people from the smart countries do, to be done here and quit being the backward, teabilly, dumb ass country we are now, where we bend over and take it up the asss voluntarily.

Bernie did the math, his economics are accurate, IT'S ALL PAID FOR! It's just that conservatives don't understand economics and screw themselves voting for their enemies.

 

I do hate the Tea Party people, I don't mean dislike, I mean UGLY HATE

 

Right, because congressional Democrats didn't authorize the use of military force in Iraq and didn't support the war in Afghanistan. It's enough to make you wonder why a deficit hawk like Barack Obama surged troops into that geostrategic backwater in the hinterlands of the Hindu Kush. Thanks for the revisionist history.

I'm all for reforming the tax code and closing loopholes, but everyone doesn't need a college degree nor does every profession require one. I know plenty of successful people who never spent a day in college.

But it's a great excuse for making them pay for other people's life choices, isn't it? If "progressives" are good at anything, it's making excuses for redistributing other people's wealth. What's funny is that they think that is altruism.

I've got a better idea. Let individuals control what they do in regards to their healthcare instead of letting the government control it. After all, individuals are in a better position to determine their needs and priorities than the nomenklatura in Washington.

Yeah, both parties suck, but so does Bernie Sanders. I hate to break the news to you, but America isn't feeling an angry old socialist from Vermont. Only a few people out on the lunatic Leftist fringe are, and many of them are idealistic kids who don't have a clue how the world and humanity works.

All that being said, enjoy Bernie's impressive showing in Iowa and his upcoming victory in New Hampshire while you can. When you reach South Carolina it's going to be time to wake up and smell the pavement.

 

Whatever. I didn't compare Sanders to the USSR, so saying I did is a bit illogical.

Actually, Sanders kinda reminds me of Clement Attlee.

That's true, and Sandersistas have a lot to learn about economics and human nature, which is why their socialist champion isn't going anywhere in the elections.

 

Even if the Dems got 60 senators not enough of them are going to be liberal enough to pass Bernie's agenda. See the public option for example. I honestly think Hillary's agenda would have trouble getting votes from the more conservative Democrats. It's still very left-wing. We saw numerous Democrats support Keystone.

 

The absolute last thing that old hag can be called is an advocate for women.

 

watching Bernie and Hillary argue about who is the purest liberal is funny as hell. One walks the walk the other talks the talk

 

We're already paying for it, and double, just by trying to keep the profit mongers thumb in the pie. They've shown they can't handle it, now they're only costing us money.