Hillsboro High students walk out over transgender dispute

When he is saying "I should get to shower with the girls because I think I am a girl" then he is forfeiting any privacy he may be entitled to regarding his gender. I am no so far out of high school that I do not recall that there were even guys who had issues with changing in other guys or who would not shower or who wore their underwear in the shower. There were girls who got to wait until the bulk of the other girls had dressed out and entered into the gym before they had to dress out and be there. There are a lot of people very sensitive to their own bodies and if you introduce someone of the opposite gender into that situation you are making matters worse for them. In addition, if this is an issue the student body will walk out over, then trying to force it on them is putting this tranny kid in danger of a beat down. Sorry, but he can wear as many dresses and wigs as he wants, but in these cases I think what is good for the many other students outweighs these individuals' wants.

 

Let's just release all the nuts from the State Hospitals and alter everyone's lives to make them feel 'comfortable' in society.

 

Well, they aren't until a male wants to use the female locker room. The boy was given a safe place to change away from the other boys. No reason he has to do it in the female locker room.

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The discomfort of the biological females in the situation outweighs the discomfort of the single confused male.

 

He should be treated for mental health issues, not accomodated in his delusions.

 

Lets play a game and see how committed he his.
He's hiking through the woods and finds himself having to urinate. What do you think he's going to do?

A. Pull his pants down and squat in order to satisfy his delusion/fantasy or

B. Whip it out and (*)(*)(*)(*) standing up like a man.

 

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!...sorry, just had to laugh out loud on that last bit.

Seriously? You don't think showing up at school wearing a wig and girls clothing, demanding to use the girls bathroom isn't "informing" anyone?

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You don't always get what you want...

- The Rolling Stones

 

Madness.

 

They are basing, and perceiving it base dupon the documented facts of this boys birth.

He is a Male, documented by Science at time of Birth...there is no other way they need to perceive it. The truth suffices.

 

This is such utter nonsense. The 'standard' is pretty straight forward...male - female. The girls have not presented themselves as anything but female. No one apparently has questioned the gender of any of them (sorry, short of surgery, time and lots of hormone treatments, a male is quite obviously NOT a girl, and vice versa) 99.999% of the time (I always allow for exceptions to any rule).

This is not about "perception", this is about gender, as in anatomical body parts and chromosomes.

It's not even a question this boy has blatantly come out as gay, then transgender, so what "standard" is it you think he is being excluded from?

Correction: "he". "He" is a male, he is not "she".

So, why should the group of girls be forced to change their view because one boy has the desire to be seen as something he is not?

 

And you suggest the race propagates how else?

 

"HIS", HE is not a SHE.

We have lots of notions that weren't around hundreds, or even thousands of years ago, so what's your point? That we should radically change them on the spot because a very small percentage of people have desires to be treated as something they aren't?

Is this boy intersex or hermaphroditic?

If not, then he is "he" and "he" should be using the male bathroom until such time he commits to his "gender identity", gets surgery to have his penis removed and a vagina installed, gets going on all the hormones and can actually "pass", as you say, as a female (even though he still won't be one).

Regardless, the entire notion that we have to foist acceptance of this on the masses is every bit as bigoted as the pro-lgbtadgftrsoivb, et al group claims anti's are.

 

Could be CupoSoup doesn't know.

 

Or maybe his name is a hint...


ew....

 

Why is tolerance always a one-way street? Why doesn't the person who is different ever have the decency to say, "You know what? I recognize that I'm in a unique position, but it's not right for me to make everybody else feel like (*)(*)(*)(*) because of it. I'll take this all in stride and do whatever helps make everybody most comfortable. Because at the end of the day, I recognize that people will treat me well if I treat them well. And I won't win any friends by forcing my way into things."

 

I know about sex yes, but gender identity is not sex. There's a clear difference between the two. Think of it like this. Just because you have tools for something doesn't mean you are that thing. You can own a bike, but not be a bicyclist.

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Who said they would see her genitalia?

 

But someone with a bike should not be riding on the sidewalk.

 

If we're going to go Utilitarian, then how about this situation. Person A holds an opinion that stands for everything that goes against the community believes in, to the point where it makes everyone feel uncomfortable if Person A voices it. Does Person A have the right to voice his opinion?

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She doesn't have a mental disorder, there's nothing to treat. She's identifying how she she wants to identify.

 

To be blunt, yes. A person's appearance doesn't tell you much about who that person is. Do you know a person's dream just by looking at them? How about all their feelings? A person's appearance can only go so far. It takes trust to get to know them.

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Ok. And?

 

he is a boy who is quite confused and needs mental help.

 

Why do you say that?

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How do you know that they saw her birth certificate and was able to verify it? Last time I checked, a certain POTUS might have been born in Kenya and no matter how much proof the right got, it was never enough.

 

Nope, it's she.

If you follow the conversation, Deckel was arguing in favor of tradition. I responded that the tradition is relatively new, and even if Deckel didn't buy that argument then there was the argument in favor of it. Since Lila wants to be treated like a regular girl, she was making an appeal to tradition.

No.

Do you not know?

1. Being a girl or boy isn't based upon genitalia. It's about identifying as such.
2. Why does a person's genitalia have to do with anything?

How is it "bigoted"? At the end of the day, you're argument advocates for Sexism.

 

That doesn't make much sense. Are you really saying that the girls there have only done things that are defined as "girly" their entire lives? Of course not, there are times that they have crossed the gender line. People have questioned their gender identity. Think about their insults towards each other. "She shouldn't wear that, who wears white after Labor day?" A girl saying that to a girl is calling into question the recipients gender identity because she's saying that girls don't do that.

Gender identity is not Sex (The biological aspect of it)This has everything to do with perception because we don't use sex as an indicator of whether or not a person is a boy or a girl. What it means to be a boy and girl are ideas, it doesn't have to do with sex.

What "standard" are you talking about? Sexual Orientation and Gender Identity are two different things.

It is she.

Why do a bunch of white people have to change with the one African American in Town? It makes them nervous.

 

If I saw a male dog screwing another male dog, I would not call it a "she". While it may be politically correct to call someone by their gender identity, it is not logical to do so. For me, the term "he" and "she" is determine by the gender, not by their gender identity.

 

What gibberish. You didn't or couldn't answer a single question.
The restrooms are seperated by gender - not gender identity. Maybe he's a lesbian trapped in a man's body.

 

And heterosexuals don't??