Hitler Wasn't An Atheist and nor were his Nazis

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  1. Sab

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    fact# Mein Kampf is riddled with referneces to God

    Example I believe today that my conduct is in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator.

    Mein Kampf Volume 1 chapter 2


    fact# Nazi troops had "Gott Mitt Ons" literally 'god is with us' on their belts

    fact# The bu;lk of SS officers were practising Roman catholics

    So the next time some looony tune Christian tells you Hitler and the Nazis were atheists you can shut him up with the truth
     
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    I don't see Sab's posts, but I think all we need to say is that Hitler was a nutter whose work was to preserve capitalism at whatever cost. Such people's opinions hardly matter, because they are merely means to their end.
     
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    I see lolos posts. Unfortunately he brings his obsession with capitalism into everything.
     
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    I couldn't care less if Hitler was this or that. Unless anyone argues that their "side" has no bad eggs at all, the fact that we can find unsound people on either side is irrelevant. I'm not better versed in Hitler's beliefs than anyone else, but I will defend Hitler's belief in any question where I agree with him. If he likes strudels and I like strudels, I would support his liking of strudels and the fact that he also did things I disagree with does not change that.
     
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    You just look in the mirror, eh?
     
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    The view from the trailer park isnt as good as it is where they understand capitalism

    Hong-Kong.jpg
     
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    People criticise Atheists because they claim Hitler was atheist. He wasn;t
     
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    Iolo Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Deep, that - like a cesspool! :)
     
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    Oh, I doubt you look anywhere near that bad, you're just repeating what others say.
     
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    i knew this was going to be anticatholic

    u dont know anything

    read a histroy book some time

    Hitler never went to Church that anyone knows of

    If he did it wasn't to go to Mass or to worship

    and Catholics are anti murder

    in case u didn't know that..
     
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    Yet he was never excommunicated...
     
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    What a lot of nonsense Crusader. he was from Austrai/Bavaia, what other religion was he going to be -buddhist?

    Catholics anti murder? So the Inquisition wasn't catholic.
     
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    The Nazis had no reference to god on their belt buckles. It was the German army

    There are other Christan faiths in Germany, Lutheran being the most dominant

    I have never seen evidence that Catholics over or under represented in the Nazi party - Given the opposition to Hitler electorally until 1933 in the Catholic south of the country, I would be suprised see large numbers of them joining the party after Hitler banned their own two political parties
     
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    Caedite eos, novit enim dominus qui sunt aos

    Ring a bell?
     
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    What has been said that is 'anti catholic'?

    Hitler may not have been the kind of christian you are, or even the kind of religious person that you would consider christian at all. But he sure as crap was no atheist. I think that's the point of the thread. it is in the title after all.
     
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    ...and nor were the Nazis

    Just the Nazi officials who were open atheists.
     
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    I've never heard anyone argue Hitler was an atheist. Are you sure that's a thing, or are you just saying that to make another point?
     
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    I have to wonder if Hitler did not notice that his Nazi party was actually the National Socialist Worker's Party? Capitalism? LOL, as they say. How embarassing.
     
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    It is indeed embarrassing how German Capitalist companies like Thyssen, Krupp, IG –Farben and Siemens profited from the war and the exploitation of slave-workers.

    It's also quite telling that the NS-regimes first victims were communists and socialists. Maybe political lables aren't always to be trusted. Think about it.
     
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    German army fighting under the nazi Party. The Nazis Changed the Flag to their own design but kept the buckles. The Soviets changed the flags and the Buckles.

    Not ,many Lutherans in Southern Germany where the Nazi Party comes from
    Its not my fault you don't read much. Hitlers main support was in the South.

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    That IS the point. So many stupid Christians use a 'Hitler was Atheist' argument when trying to criticise free thinkers.
     
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    Who were they then? Certainly not Hitler....or Himmler...or Goering.
     
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    The Nazi Party originated in Bavaria but got the most votes in Northern and Eastern Germany

    That's not what I learned in my history lessons at a German Gymnasium. In fact the NSDAP got the least support in the South. If you beg to differ you ought to change this Wikipedia-article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_federal_election,_March_1933



    I haven't got the slightest problems with reasonable atheists and 'free thinkers', but if I was to tease them with a rotten atheist apple, Stalin springs to mind. Of course according to some Dawkins fan-boys Stalin is also to be located in the 'religion-camp'. There goes reason and ideology enters.
     
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    Its leadership came out of Bavaria.
    Anyway I'm not specifically attacking Catholics but all Christians.

    I'm still waiting for these Atheist Nazi leaders to be named.
     
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    Stalin. The man who went to seminary then after the revolution made sure the russian orthodox church stayed open and was part of thee lection process for a each subsequent Patriarch.
     
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    Martin Bormann was an open atheist. It's interesting you bring up Himmler since he was into mysticism the type of thing frowned upon by religious fanatics and what not.

    And if you ignore Goebbels and Bormann's accounts of Hitler's views of Christianity, Hitler's religiosity was basically the same to most Westerners today; he was hardly a Christian religious fanatic, holy roller type.
     

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