"Hope Not Hate" and more banning of free speech

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  1. GaryS

    GaryS New Member

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    Two of the people who campaigned against the building of the ‘Ground Zero Mosque’ in New York have been barred from entering Britain. Home Secretary Theresa May told Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer, of the Stop Islamization of America group, that their presence in the UK would “not be conducive to the public good”. They were planning to speak at an EDL rally, and have now been banned from our shores for at least three years. According to Theresa May they “do not share our values”.

    'Hope Not Hate', a new organisation who sound like another UAF (that's United Against Freedom) could barely contain their delight, saying they "believe in freedom of speech and the rights of people to hold and express different views. However, in a democracy there have to be limits on people abusing these freedoms to incite hatred, and we believe that Geller and Spencer are seeking to do just that".

    We don't have freedom of speech in this country. If you're a quisling, a terrorist supporter or a 'gangsta rappa' you can be as anti-Jewish, homophobic and mysoginist as you like and you can bet your pants the likes of UAF and 'Hope Not Hate' won't dare utter a word against you. The rest of us, however, are only allowed viewpoints approved of by the State.
     
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    Hope not hate only played a minor role in the two American bloggers' travel ban and the group only collected 1,200 signatures. The Home Office routinely singles out extremist types of foreign origin such as Muslim hate preachers and prevents them from entering the country if there is a perceived threat to community relations and Britain's hate crime laws are the strictest in the world and you could be arrested for using ethnic slurs in public. Moreover, the planned EDL rally in Woolich, which Geller and Spencer were planning to attend, was not approved by the Met and they had no reason to visit the UK.

     
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    Any speech or opinion which goes against the left-wing worldview is now allowed in the UK and is instantly suppressed.

    Just listen to Question Time Extra Time on BBC Radio Five Live straight after Question Time has been aired on TV and you'll get a perfect example of this. This show has members of the public phoning in to give their views, live, on the topics discussed on Question Time. The Northern Irish presenter of Question Time Extra Time, Stephen Nolan, keeps cutting off, often mid-sentence, any person whose views differ from his left-wing views and the only people who get to put acoss their views properly are left-wingers.

    There have been many complaints about this but, not suprisingly, the Marxist BBC just doesn't listen.
     
  4. Reiver

    Reiver Well-Known Member

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    They say we're a few years behind the yanks. However, this disputes that! You don't even watch Fox News and you type the same ole, the same ole, the same ole bobbins
     
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    As the dhimmis in the United Q'ingdom strum warmly and fuzzily on their UKulele strings, the Muzzies are creeping up on them, getting ready to break off the strings and strangle the Brit nitwits with them.
     
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    Nope, we're watching Jeremy Kyle and considering whether Tipping Point really competes with Perfection. Hard core multiculturalism that you fellows can just dribble over
     
  7. GaryS

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    Where are the law when people need protecting from the Sharia law thugs who now more or less run parts of London? And where were the law when anti-Western marches are going on and the likes of Abu Hanza were preeching their hatred. UAF (stormtroopers in plain clothes) were storming a TV centre because a fascist was about to go on Question Time. Hasn't Question Time been full of fascist politicians since it started? Well, let's put this in perspective. Nick Griffin wants anyone who looks foreign deported, but the BNP are never going to get anywhere near power. They have no MPs, no real support, only a rag-bad of simpletons and little englanders. New Labour, on the other hand, were in power for 13 years and they caused the deaths of over a million foreign people. Not only that, but sanctions enforced in Iraq by Blair and Clinton (another mass-murdering sociopath) caused the deaths of over a million Iraqi women and children, and a lot of children in Iraq have been born deformed thanks to the uranium dropped on Iraq. So why don't we see any of the "freedom fighters" and "anti-fascists" protesting when one of the Blair cabinet is on Question Time? In fact Jack Straw (one of Blair's cap-touching toadies) was in the very same episode of Question Time as Griffin, but no-one uttered a word about that.
     
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    Because they aren't fascists obviously! You do make some silly comments...
     
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    Why should the British care about what a group called "stop the islamisation of America" has to say ? America can become a Shia Caliphate and Obama the great Sultan all they like . UK doesn't like hate speech groups and this is it , respect it .
     
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    I'd say Perfection slightly beats Tipping Point, although neither of those two compare with Pointless.
     
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    Because any group which campagins against their country becoming Islamified - such as "stop the Islamisation of America" or the EDL - should be listened to and supported.
     
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    I see no reason why , "islamification" is an imaginary term .
     
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    Old fashioned! EDL all look like a bunch of Pointless obsessed to me.
     
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    No, Blair isn't a fascist, just a liar, a mass-murderer and an EU toady. But not a fascist. So he does have some standards then.

    Britain now has its second unelected PM in a row taking orders from unelected bureaucrats in Brussels. Hardly what I'd call freedom.
     
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    The stirring speeches of Churchill no longer strum the strings of the UKuleles. The multicults' Munich has made the formerly Great Britain become Chamberlain's Chamberpot.
     
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    As far as I'm concerned the EU is a far-right/far-left (is there a difference?) organisation which seeks total control over Europe by means of financial warfare. Just look at any Islamic country and you'll see fascism. Blair and his cronies, along with this present rabble, are all EU puppets and therefore implicated.
     
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    Hope Not Hate has been around for ages. It is related to Searchlight.
     
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    Because we have laws against incitement to hate and violence and these people fit the rule for that.

    There have been several attacks on Mosques since the Woolwich murder and each time on EDL sites they have been whooping it up. When a mosque/community center was burnt down with the words EDL painted on it EDL sites were saying /next time make it on Friday when they are full' and getting very excited at the idea of murdering numerous muslims in one go. Only about two weeks ago something which appeared as a home made bomb was found in a mosque on Friday - thankfully poor make so no one harmed.

    Spencer and Geller are part of a hate network who deliberately spread hate and lies to egg people on to Muslim hatred.

    http://jfjfp.com/?p=45029

    They would just encourage these people who are already committing hate crimes to more so just like we refuse anyone else spreading hate and encouraging terrorism, they are not welcome.
     
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    When a government can ban speech because they deem it harmful, beware, any speech against the government can be deemed "harmful".
     
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    You're right, Dark. Soon it'll be "we're doing this for you're own good" and "we're protecting you from these nasty people". The fact is the real terrorists are the American and British governments.
     
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    Would Britain need those laws if they had not brought in so many migrants? Seems to me, either way someone's freedom is getting restricted...
     
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    "Hope Not Hate". What a total joke. Governments don't want people living together peacefully. They believe in "divide and conquer". The so-called "hate police" are just another way of enforcing total control.
     
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    Good. I'd love to see footage of a mosque in flames.

    The thing is, too, that if a church was attacked in the same way that some mosques are being attacked we'd never even hear about it.
     
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    The destruction of mosques and the hatred of the West have all been caused by politicians and their media lapdogs turning sections of the public against each other. The best thing people of all backgrounds and religions can do to stamp out hate is to be friends, and indeed people of varying religions can get on perfectly well. Unfortunately the rabble-rousers and the egotist council/town hall busybodies are worried a united people will realise who their real enemies are.
     

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