House GOP demands unredacted records of Biden using pseudonym while VP

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  1. Alwayssa

    Alwayssa Well-Known Member

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    You will have to prove there is more than one.
     
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    That is not necessarily true. There are procedures in which a person can use a pseudonym at work. They fill out the paperwork, the security office within the department approves or not approve the request. And if approved, will assign the pseudonym.

    However, what you also have to do is prove there is no person by that name at pci.gov. And that would mean Comer going to the DoD for verification for such proof. Simply stating it is not going to prove anything.

    Comer has already lost on the "Big Joe" in one text with Hunter Biden saying that is Joe Biden and pretty much lost, so now he is using this crapola.
     
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    It is not a specific law, it is a procedure within the department or agency. He is generally correct, but he fails that there are procedures in which a person can use a pseudonym at work.
     
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    "They" can work on this till the Rapture comes and they still won't have the evidence at all.


    Bank records, credit card accounts, and spending does not prove a damn thing other than any issue with taking deductions or his two current tax crimes he is facing. But for fraud, money laundering, and the such, you need legal documents, contracts, agreements, and such on why the money went in and why the money went to certain individuals. If Comer was a true attorney, he would have asked for those long ago along WITH the bank records, but he hasn't. No one has on the House Oversight Committee. Bank records only prove one things and one thing only, the money coming in and the money going out. As for why, then you need additional substantiation because bank records is not enough and never will be enough in a court of law.

    The only thing Comer has proven is that money has come from China. Big whoopi doo there Blues. Plenty of people get money from China. And CEFC is a private energy company in China much like ExxonMobile here. Even ExxonMobile has investments in China with low carbon capture and petrochemical plant. And Biden had Business in China, or at least trying to set up one with his Chinese partners. Nothing wrong there, is it. And none were official government officials or not even unofficial government officials. So, you and the rest of the gang have zero, zilch, nada, nothing on this and you are trying so desperately to make it so in which those allegations with no proof or evidence says otherwise.
     
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  5. Bluesguy

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    You don't care that the family of the President is making deals concerning foreign policy, economic policy and national security with our worst foreign adversaries to the tune of TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS? You don't care the family of the President is in the back pockets of our worst enemies? REALLY?
     
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    Prove $2B went into Jared's personal bank account while Trump was President.

    And then we will trade. I will tell you for that money was for and where it is. Then you tell me what the tens of millions of dollars to the Biden's from our worst foreign adversaries was for and where it is. Deal?
     
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    We ready have a mountain of evidence at all.



    False. FirstComer is a true BANKER with lots of attorney's on staff and they have been FIGHTING the Biden administration for months to get these and other records......you know one reason the whistleblowers came forward.

    It also proves who it came from and who it goes to and why the Biden money was being laundered.

    How many get it for political influence at the highest levels of the government.


    Oh spare me those were Chinese officials in that Chinese company it's all Chinese.
     
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    Even their in the pocket MSM is starting to take notice that they should be reporting this stuff.
     
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    Why should I do that? Why should I try and “prove” what a five year investigation has not been able to prove? The GOP is like a dog with a mouldy bone. There is nothing left on it but they won’t let go
     
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    For starters, you don't have a mountain of evidence at all, but you do have a mountain of disconnected facts. That's it. You have two FD 1023s. You have proof of payments from point A to point B to point C. You have two whisleblowers that really did not provide any "smoking gun." You have one witness, a former business partner that pretty much shot down every conspiracy theory about Hunter Biden that the GOP and people like you are so desperately trying to hang on. But if you want to prove fraud, money laudering, etc, you need more evidence than just bank records. Any reputable attorney will tell you that.




    He is not a true banker. Most of his experience was with agriculture based on the farm he owned and the land and cattle company that he owned. Yes he served on a bank that was small and eventually was acquired by a credit union in 2019. But he does not know **** when it comes to what truly constitutes money laundering and such. .


    Yes it comes from China, and that is all that is proven. But coming from china for legitimate business purposes is not a crime in this country, is it?


    His father is VP for eight years and is now president. You may want to look at Trump's children and how much access they had to the highest levels of government as well. Again, that is not necessarily a crime. Maybe you are jealous because you don't have the money or the assets to get what most billionaires get when they send donations to their congresspersons or senators.



    LOL, Comer has to prove that those persons were Chinese officials. Simply using your anti-Chinese rhetoric also does not make it a crime. If you can't prove they are official chinese officials, then you can't prove the crime for which you are alleging at all, none of it.
     
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    We really don’t give a sh$$$. You know why ? because the hypocrisy of the RIGHT.

    In one hand you believe every single allegation against Joe biden but when it comes to Trump and his family .. this is your response.

    Your own post # 80


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    I believe in the law and the Constitution and the facts and evidence. I cite them and quote them and ask you to refute them and you either refuse or divert to something else usual to do with Trump as with trying to divert and conflate Kushner and Hunter and when I point to the fallacy of doing so again you do nit respond to it but now comes the HYPOCRACY. So you are left with it's OK for the Biden's to have engaged in criminal acts while selling out the country enriching themselves selling influence to our worst foreign adversaries and while he was VP because the company in which Kushner became a partner AFTER he left the White House MANAGES an investment account for a Saudi group. A QUITE OPEN and publically announced deal and legitimate and register investment company. Not cash payments through almost TWO DOZEN shell companies into the PRIVATE bank accounts of the Biden family for no apparent legitimate product or service.

    Let's not forget yiu guys brought up the phony outrage about Kushner first. So who exactly is being hypocritical here in these twisting like a pretzel to defend the Biden's?
     
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    "I'm a hypocrite because I believe other people are hypocrites" is one of the dumbest arguments I've read today.
     
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    Also, this idea that Devon Archer 'disproved' anything, isn't necessarily so. Archer revealed the fact that these phone calls happened, over 20 times. When we were told by this POTUS that the calls didn't happen and that he wasn't on them. What Archer also inherently revealed by what he couldn't say, is that he is not nor should he be the primary source material for an investigation.

    We need the phone records themselves. The records can tell us completely without any bias, what was said and when and by whom. And the idea of Hunter's lawyers providing the DOJ the shakedown by claiming they'll call Joe Biden as a material witness, shows in fact that an investigation here is warranted, since the defense views his father as a material fact witness.

    A fact witness, that the investigation has stone walled into. Here's the thing I'll hit the left with: We had Crossfire Hurricane over 'Russian ties'. Here, we have tangible phone calls and money changing hands. We have substantially more credible evidence on the money laundering, then we did on a Trump-Russian collusion.

    (Hunter would've been liable for the money laundering, if not for the statute of limitations.). These are corrupt acts, and Joe Biden appears to be materially involved. If he wants to prove he's not involved, he can come to the House for testimony and to clear his name.
     
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    This isn't a new revelation, it was reported back in 2013 that multiple people within the Obama administration were using multiple email addresses with pseudonym names. You can read the question and answer from the administration's press secretary at the time

    https://obamawhitehouse.archives.go...ss-briefing-press-secretary-jay-carney-642013

    The fact that congress is now able to make the request would indicate he was telling the truth. It should be well noted, the fact that this is a ".gov" email means it is fully archived. If Biden were using such an email for nefarious dealings, then he would have to be America's dumbest criminal. Don't get me wrong, release the archive.. by all means.. but it's doltish to suggest that a pseudonym name for an official government email is in itself evidence of a crime
     
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    The MSM is covering it because they need to cover for Joe Biden. Joe loves his son and that is why they talked so often on the phone even during meetings. They only discussed the weather when they were traveling the world together. Sometimes Hunter could be seen walking down the plane stairs with his daddy and sometimes Hunter went out the back door and slipped quietly into the limo. While Joe was in the public eye Hunter was doing his dirty little deeds of selling daddy's influence. The MSM will not be able to cover for the Biden's much longer.
     
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    No one in the government can have 2 email accounts PERIOD! Someone in the IT department was given phony information for an email account. As a government employee Joe was allowed to have only one account under his real name. Now that Comer knows what names to search under we might find some real dirt on Joe that no one will be able to ignore. We also know Joe has a gmail.com address which is available to Comer. If Hunter's laptop hadn't been discovered Joe's fake .gov account would not be known therefore it would be hidden inside the NA because no one would have thought to look for Joe's emails under his fake .gov name. This would have been a smart move by Joe if not for Hunter leaving his laptop in a repair shop.
     
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    I went back and looked, and didnt see ONE POST where you chided, or even admitted any of these same feelings/thoughts when Ivanka and Jared got their $2 Billion $$$ form the Saudis……weird…..

    I love how now you think Russia is an allies to the US because of who they are dealing with. You didnt have a problem with them when you voted for Trump in 2016, when he was lying about trying to build a tower in Moscow, and was giving Putin a penthouse….hmmmm…wierd huh….
     
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    Show us the relevant law that you claim exists….should be easy since you made the claim…
     
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    That is not inaccurate.. but if I'm wrong there is a very easy way to prove me wrong. Show me what law you are referring to
     
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    Hmm I'm sure that 2billion dollar contract for work was really just to get support from the Trump whitehouse, oh wait Trump wasn't in office. Apples and Oranges but if it was to get influence from Biden, the sitting President, I sure as hell would have a problem with it. Any official taking money to create policy should be outed, left and right.
     
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    OF COURSE NOT................why should I treat it the same as the Biden family influence peddling you have no evidence of anything illegal or corrupt

    Tell me how you possibly conflate them. One was cash money being laundered through multiple shell companies after secret meetings with our worst foreign adversaries into the PRIVATE bank accounts of Biden family members even those who had NOTHING to do with like GRANDCHILDREN. CASH MONEY Russia, China, Ukraine, Romania and possibly others gave THEM POSSESSION, ownership, and we still don't have all the bank records. WHILE The Big Guy was in office. Flying all around the world on Air Force two conducting these influence peddling schemes and enriching the family and full facilitated by The Big Guy.

    The other a private citizen no longer in government goes to work for an established registered investment firm. The family of an ally of the United States which had worked with him in his HIGHLY successful role as a Mid-East negotiator knowing him as a person with a highly success investment career OPENS an investment account in the investment firm for them to MANAGE THEIR money.

    The first case all highly secretive. Secret bank accounts, shell companies, code names, secret email addresses
    The latter I have read about numerous times in the daily news, all above board.

    A lie retract it.

    A lie retract it.

    And I could care less had Hunter Biden opened some factory in China or a legitimate investment firm above board and accounted for as long as he did not involve The Big Guy in it to boost the business.

    But then that is NOT the case with the Biden's
     
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    Do you know the law that prevents US citizens from having more than one passport with different names? Government email accounts are setup using Social Security Numbers just like passports. Does Joe have more than one SSN?
     
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    It is a legal requirement that the name on your passport be the same as your legal name, however it is not a legal requirement for your email address to be your legal name. That is an extremely doltish argument. You can have multiple email addresses, whether it be private or government. There are no laws restricting multiple emails.. but once again, if I am wrong there is a very easy way for you to prove me wrong
     
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    If i had a pseudonym I would at least make it sound cool. I'm thinking something like Hung Solo :)
     

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